r00fie1
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Me neither.
40,000,000 of them on our islands.
We cant accommodate any more.
Cyclists who cause road rage
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40,000,000 of them on our islands.
We cant accommodate any more.
viv_andersons_nana
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I agree, which is why I don't drive. I use public transport and walk a lot. I'm frequently cut off by cyclists on the long walk from London Bridge to Old Street, which I do daily(when not WFH due to the pandemic). In my own experience of walking this route over the past few months, it's cyclists who I have to keep more of an eye out for because so many of them jump the lights or mount the pavement to avoid them.
That isn't me advocating more cars, or drivers mowing down cyclists, it's me saying I find some cyclists to be absolute pests at times.
Duffman
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Not a publication I would normally read let alone post but it seems money is continuing to be wasted trying to improve the lot of cyclists.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Motorists' fury as cyclist IGNORES £1.12m cycle lane in Bournemouth
Infuriating video footage, filmed by a car passenger, shows a row of cars slow down to a crawl behind the cyclist as he rides along the A347 Whitelegg Way in Bournemouth, Dorset.
BaronSmoggie
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Don't be daft, they have to stop for cars right now. Why change the priority, all it does is increase the potential for car shunts.
Erimus74
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Or full of broken glass
gregorgregorovich
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The rule already says if pedestrians are crossing a side road, that cars have to stop . If a car runs into you then they are driving too close.
RedAsABeetroot
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Averaging half that's going some for me, but down Tan Hill I can get to 30mph easily. In fact most hills. It's going up the other side that's my problem.
JM14
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Look at what’s blocking the cycle lane, with the work going on next to it, it would be no surprise if it was closed off anyway.
The headline is unbelievable though, the car didn’t veer into any traffic at all, it overtook the bike when it was safe. At absolute worst the car was delayed by 20 seconds, hardly life changing.
I highly doubt any cyclist would decide to use a busy road if the cycle lane was an option. The daily Mail really do have a strange obsession with cyclists, but I guess anything to outrage the idiots who read it will sell papers
RedAsABeetroot
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I can foresee it'll be a lack of anticipation that someone would stop at a junction with a clear road ahead of them while not indicating.
I also hate the current rear light designs where each manufacturer is trying to make their car distinctive by its lights. As a result it's sometimes much harder to pick out indication while braking, etc because the indicator light is inside a bright brake light.
As for these later model with a continuous light across the back, did the manufacturers get a 3 year old to design them? They look crap.
RedAsABeetroot
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Don't take you hand off the bars to point out pot holes at speed. It takes some staying on, if you're lucky.
RedAsABeetroot
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It would also not suprise me if there was a give way sign for the cycle path at the lights.
Whoever designs these has never ridden with proper pedals and also don't understand the concept that to start from standstill on a bike requires more physical effort than a slight inclining of your right foot.
r00fie1
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According to Sustrans ,the amount spent on infrastructure for non motor vehicle road users is the equivalent of the total annual maintenance cost of a quarter of a mile of the M6.Not a publication I would normally read let alone post but it seems money is continuing to be wasted trying to improve the lot of cyclists.
Motorists' fury as cyclist IGNORES £1.12m cycle lane in Bournemouth
Infuriating video footage, filmed by a car passenger, shows a row of cars slow down to a crawl behind the cyclist as he rides along the A347 Whitelegg Way in Bournemouth, Dorset.
Drawing white lines on pavements, making non motor vehicles stop and start at every kerb is not infrastructure: it still gives priority to motor vehicles and forces other transport back on the roads - which are dangerous because they focus on motor vehicles. Feet and wheels dont mix.
r00fie1
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Absolutely.
Take a look at the pretty white lines around Middlehaven and those leading to The Riverside. Totally cosmetic and pathetic.
The rebuilding and renewing of infrastructure needs to begin with Marton road from the top of the bank into Boro.
It needs to focus on Linthorpe Road to Town
Redcar to Boro along the main drag - safely.
Boro to Stockton without stops and starts - right angle crossings, dismount and remount, etc.
Just take a look at the so-called cycle route which takes in the old Cargo Fleet Road [beginning at the rail crossing next A66 Tunnel] and see what happens when it gets next to the Navvi - that is supposed to be a safe cycle path. Look at how overgrown, dangerous, poorly lit and covered in crap it is! Thats what people are telling cyclists is "infrastructure"!
MolteniArcore
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I'm sure most of the cycling infrastructure in this country is just white lines on roads which means a local authority can tick a box to say they have provided X amount of cycle lanes. I've risen thousands of miles and it's very rare you come across one fit for purpose.
If drivers would like to get irate about something maybe target the Council's who are wasting their taxes on worthless cycle lanes that encourage riders on to the road? If they made proper lanes for cyclists you could have the roads to yourself. I'd rather not share the road with an impatient angry human sat behind the wheel of a 1 ton metal death box whilst they check Facebook as they drive.
If drivers would like to get irate about something maybe target the Council's who are wasting their taxes on worthless cycle lanes that encourage riders on to the road? If they made proper lanes for cyclists you could have the roads to yourself. I'd rather not share the road with an impatient angry human sat behind the wheel of a 1 ton metal death box whilst they check Facebook as they drive.
r00fie1
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The fact is - since the late 50s the oil industry and road builders joined up with planners and government to [literally] drive the car and motor transport as a priority.
The state disinvested [in this country] in railways and alternative transport: it handed transport over to private companies and roads. Trolley buses and trams were ripped out of infrastructure and planning. Town centres were walled off by ring-roads and tarmacked over. Economically, the car and oil is far more profitable to huge multi-national corporations. Oil is also political power - not just fuel.
The road industry has no care for the environment or sustainability. What we have now is like picking up litter alongside the motorway network - whilst people chuck crap out of their car windows. Public transport cannot be privately operated or owned to be efficient, reliable, cheap to use and extensive across all towns and cities across the country. Government should never be involved in developing major transport infrastructure - only at macro planning and finance level. Only local people and the regions have any idea of integrated transport needs.
Its been time for a change for decades, but the roads are worse now for congestion, air pollution and clogging up our pavements and neighbourhoods. Building motorways, by-passes and covering arable land with hard core has done nothing, but speed up sofas-in-a-tin to the next jam.
The reaction and push-back challenges the individualism and profits which fuels priority for the motor-vehicle.
It wont be easy, but we havent got decades to sort it out.
The state disinvested [in this country] in railways and alternative transport: it handed transport over to private companies and roads. Trolley buses and trams were ripped out of infrastructure and planning. Town centres were walled off by ring-roads and tarmacked over. Economically, the car and oil is far more profitable to huge multi-national corporations. Oil is also political power - not just fuel.
The road industry has no care for the environment or sustainability. What we have now is like picking up litter alongside the motorway network - whilst people chuck crap out of their car windows. Public transport cannot be privately operated or owned to be efficient, reliable, cheap to use and extensive across all towns and cities across the country. Government should never be involved in developing major transport infrastructure - only at macro planning and finance level. Only local people and the regions have any idea of integrated transport needs.
Its been time for a change for decades, but the roads are worse now for congestion, air pollution and clogging up our pavements and neighbourhoods. Building motorways, by-passes and covering arable land with hard core has done nothing, but speed up sofas-in-a-tin to the next jam.
The reaction and push-back challenges the individualism and profits which fuels priority for the motor-vehicle.
It wont be easy, but we havent got decades to sort it out.
BaronSmoggie
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Thats not what is being talked about, its if a pedestrian is on the pavement ready to cross, rather than wait for the car to turn, the car now has to stop and let the pedestrian cross.
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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I really dont get what winds people up so much about cyclists dressing appropriately, as hinted at on this thread as well as the multiple anti-cyclist threads that crop up regularly with comments like "they think they're Bradley Wiggins" or "dressing like they're riding the Tour de France" when someone dares to wear lycra or use clipless pedals.
Presumably these people expect Sunday league players to play in their jeans and trainers, or go swimming in their work suits ?
Presumably these people expect Sunday league players to play in their jeans and trainers, or go swimming in their work suits ?
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viv_andersons_nana
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I mentioned it because I personally find that the ones who cut across pavements and pedestrians to avoid red lights are the ones who appear to be very serious about cycling, hence the correct/'proper' cycling gear. As I said earlier, to my mind you're either on the road or you're not.
The thing that gets me is when a cyclist is wearing a helmet with a camera on it and decides to just hop onto a pavement to avoid waiting at a set of traffic lights, forcing pedestrians back; I wonder if they ever get home and post those videos on Twitter or YouTube to display to the world how careless or dangerous some road users can be?
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BaronSmoggie
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Only after editing.
MolteniArcore
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In all fairness though, however annoying that is, cyclists killing pedestrians is VERY rare. Cyclists wear those cameras because they genuinely fear for their safety when cycling on roads as drivers killing cyclists and pedestrians isn't rare.
I go out with a camera on my bike and the only reason I do is I don't feel safe on the roads. Every year I experience hundreds of dangerous passes / incidents that make me feel this way. Every ride on the road you will get some idiot not safe to be even driving endangering your life. These people should be a concern to drivers too as they are the ones who will crash into you or kill your kid walking to school.
It is in everyones interests to be courteous on the roads. We all know there are idiots but the idiot cyclists tend not to kill people - the idiot drivers do (and then rarely get jailed for it).