Warnock - ‘good old Boris’

I think he'll be welcomed with open arms. There are obviously an awful lot of tories and brexiters in our midst.
Totally agree

To be honest if he'd spoke against Boris I think the Tories on here currently praising him or saying there's nothing wrong with it would be criticising him, while those on the left currently criticising him would be saying it's ok
 
So we’ve gone from criticising NW for having an opinion ( he’s not hitler) to now dissing this country and saying how much more appealing other countries are. If you really feel that way then perhaps a move to one of them is for you. I’d wager the grass isn’t any greener.

If you are healthy and those you love are healthy then everything is simply gravy. It really isn’t worth getting so upset about. Worse things happen on life than someone airing an opinion that is different to yours. I get that politics are an interest and issue to some and having debate is good but the current situation that many disagree with will pass. Corruption and incompetence in any side should be called out and dealt with but being so bitter about stuff isn’t good for a person.
 
To use that against Warnock or the government is unfair and is unnecessary. It is what Warnock produces for our club that is key not his comment on Boris Johnson.
It's the idiocy of using our club as a platform for positive promotion of a corrupt murdering Prime Minister that is unfair and unnecessary.
 
If you are healthy and those you love are healthy then everything is simply gravy. It really isn’t worth getting so upset about.
See, this is the bit I have a problem with. What you are saying is that nobody outside your immediate circle matters at all. In other words, everyone else can go to hell, including the poor and vulnerable. I can't subscribe to such a worldview.
 
See, this is the bit I have a problem with. What you are saying is that nobody outside your immediate circle matters at all. In other words, everyone else can go to hell, including the poor and vulnerable. I can't subscribe to such a worldview.
Nope it's sociopathic, zero empathy, it's exactly what doesn't make a country 'great'.
 
See, this is the bit I have a problem with. What you are saying is that nobody outside your immediate circle matters at all. In other words, everyone else can go to hell, including the poor and vulnerable. I can't subscribe to such a worldview.
I can see why you interpreted it that way but that wasn’t my intention.
 
I don’t really care about NW’s personal views, he’s completely entitled to them, but how does that end up in a Boro press conference? It’s cringeworthy more than anything else
Well said jostler
Neil Warnocks views on political issues such us as are, quite frankly rubbish, but his football management skills are exceptional and that’s what is important
 
So we’ve gone from criticising NW for having an opinion ( he’s not hitler) to now dissing this country and saying how much more appealing other countries are. If you really feel that way then perhaps a move to one of them is for you. I’d wager the grass isn’t any greener.

You seem to conveniently forget how much harder this current government have made moving to another country.
 
It's the idiocy of using our club as a platform for positive promotion of a corrupt murdering Prime Minister that is unfair and unnecessary.
In my opinion you are reading far more into a throw away line than is necessary BoroMart. He is an everyday bloke too, making a passing comment which definitely has its links to football by paving the way for fans to get back into grounds and for life to start to return to some degree of normality, thats all. Other countries around the world dallied and that has cost lives too elsewhere. The vaccine role out is a huge success. The NHS deserve the biggest credit, but it would not have been possible without the governments actions on buying lumps of vaccines early on, that is an undeniable fact.

Warnock is not using our club as a political platform any more than Gibson has in the past or we all are indirectly on here. Warnock is a good man, opinionated and experienced in life, as many on here are too and he has our clubs interests at heart right now, he is not trying to politicise anything. The link to what he said and football is clear to me, I can not abide Johnson or his allies in government, but i always try to give credit where it is due. The tories do rightly deserve some credit, otherwise it would be counter productive and mean, Only commenting on the negative would detract from our right to be taken seriously and our opinion valued, especially when talking about all the deserved criticism we rightly criticise the government on as well.
 
You seem to conveniently forget how much harder this current government have made moving to another country.

Yes it has affected that, but we knew it would. It is not a one sided issue though. I don’t hear you criticising some countries in the EU for making life difficult for Brits already living in Europe, despite the agreements the EU signed up to, Spain spring to mind. Portugal however seem more than open to British people wanting to relocate still. Life throws up changes all the time, you can still live in the EU, you just have to meet their criteria, just like any country, the UK included, it is not impossible. If you desire to one day, I hope you can live your dream there.
 
Just a little correction there coluka. The reason some EU countries are being less than helpful is because the british government has been less than helpful in its treatment of europeans living in the UK. It's understandable that they would treat the british citizens in the way the UK treats their citizens. In the first weeks of the brexit negotiations the EU offered to retain the status quo for all british citizens in europe in return for the same treatment of EU citizens in the UK, May refused point-blank.
 
Yes it has affected that, but we knew it would. It is not a one sided issue though. I don’t hear you criticising some countries in the EU for making life difficult for Brits already living in Europe, despite the agreements the EU signed up to, Spain spring to mind. Portugal however seem more than open to British people wanting to relocate still. Life throws up changes all the time, you can still live in the EU, you just have to meet their criteria, just like any country, the UK included, it is not impossible. If you desire to one day, I hope you can live your dream there.
I'm not criticising them because they didn't choose to blow up the existing and functioning system.

These systems thrive on reciprocity, which the UK government point blank refused to offer.
 
tbh I couldn't care less what warnock has for his breakfast, what brand of jeans he wears, where he gets his haircut, what music he listens to in the bath.. get quality players in the club and coach them to do the business on the pitch.

good old warny
 
I think it is a little tongue in cheek to be fair. Yes he is probably a Tory Breixiteer, the vaccination process was a huge success. It was a gamble that is paying off and allowing you all to get back into pubs, clubs, shops and the Riverside Stadium soon enough, so I for one am grateful for that. To use that against Warnock or the government is unfair and is unnecessary. It is what Warnock produces for our club that is key not his comment on Boris Johnson.

Johnson will hopefully be held account for his rank bad failures, of which there are far more than his successes thus far. The huge death figures were clearly unnecessary and Johnson and his cohort of political allies need to be held accountable, but Warnock was talking about the vaccination programme that will see us all back in grounds in August hopefully, there is a valid football connection. Fans will be key to our progress on the pitch and off it, so he has every right to say so. People need to understand that politicians of all sides have some positives and negatives that work both for and against us all, that will never change.

MFC is owned and run by a man who has supported both Labour and Conservatives over his ownership. Why does Warnock get grief for his throw away line and Gibson and his tory support not? People need to have the self awareness to deal with the fact others have different views. If people want a fairer society and greater equality then they should lead by example, tolerate others rights to their view without getting uptight about differences. Bully boy disrespecting of others is no way to win a debate. Nobody is right all the time, people get too black and white about politics, I am guilty of it at times too, we all are, nobody's vote is more valuable than anyone elses. We live in an eclectic democracy, we have some basic norms, values and freedoms, with that goes the rights and freedoms of others to be different, provided they fall within the rules of an acceptable society, we should all try to be more respectful.
There may (will) be people that disagree with his opinion. No one disagrees with his right to have it. The problem lies in using the club channels as a mouth piece. Given the way the last few months have panned out, he’s taking some huge liberties in thinking he can express his political views (which historically go against the tide in this area) through the club. He doesnt have the credit in the bank to get away with stunts like this...certainly not with me. Bad bad move from his perspective in terms of his popularity.
 
I'm not criticising them because they didn't choose to blow up the existing and functioning system.

These systems thrive on reciprocity, which the UK government point blank refused to offer.

Right, so it is ok by you for some countries to treat people who were already living in their country and made their homes and livelihoods there, abiding by laws, paying taxes, different to say other locals who may also be from another country?

I have a friend who is from Poland originally, he is a self employed tradesman and has no truck with brexit and feels welcome here, his assures me his families life has not been made more difficult by the UK government since brexit, he just complies with UK law and seemingly loves his life here on the coast still.

If it was functioning as well for all as you imply, not all 52% (approx) would not have voted as they did, just a thought. The truth is politics is an ever changing environment. Brexit will see both positive achievements and some negative results as would remaining in some peoples eyes. I can still live and work abroad if i wanted to, I can holiday in Spain, France, Germany, Poland still. We can trade with the EU. They should concentrate on delivering for the lives of their tax payers rather than looking at ways to punish the nasty UK. They took their eye of the ball with the vaccines like we did on PPE. This is not like Animal Farm (EU legs good UK legs bad). We should all move on with life instead of getting stuck in ruts of disagreement, life is too short as it is.
 
He's clearly a selfish, thick, knuckle dragging, right wing racist, just like the voters in Hartlepool..
(Should get me a few browny points on here)
 
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