subbing a substitute

Graeme Souness did it a few times as a manager. I seem to remember him sending on then removing a bloke called Jimmy Carter when he manager at Liverpool, and then selling him shortly afterwards.
 
This post has brought back a really weird Ayresome memory.
We signed a scottish winger called Tommy Wright n the 1990s.
Pre-season friendly he comes on as sub, then is subbed off.
Not the most auspicious start.
Anyone else remember this????
I remember Tommy Wright destroying Leeds in that 4-1 win at Ayresome Park, scored one and made the others. It all went a bit sour though and he fell into dispute with the club and wanted out. In the preseason team photo the following summer while everyone else was smiling he just scowled at the camera!
 
When watching match of the day I saw he went up to Hudson-Ndoi at the time, and thought he was apologising. Then I saw the criticiam in the post match interview
There is certainly an argument for keeping those thoughts in the dressing room


As for Boro I think Chris Morris had come on as sub at home to Bolton in 1993/94,then got stretchered off injured
(not 100 per cent if he started or came on as sub)
 
I think it mostly happens of a sub has come on early due to an injury.

It then sometimes happens that they're taken off late on for tactical, rather than performance reasons.
 
I notice Thomas Tuchel hauled off Calum Hudson-Odoi after 30 minutes of a second-half appearance v Southampton - not enough effort in 'counter-pressing' (whatever that is). Apparently the lad (some would say naturally) made his displeasure clear. What are people's opinions on that? Personally, I think doing that any pro is harsh, and to a player of his calibre and profile is a risky strategy. Tuchel can probably get away it with the fans because he's started well, but he'll have to employ some psychology with Odoi for sure.

Has a Boro manager ever subbed a sub for being cr*p I wonder?
If he was playing like a pro it wouldn't have happened. If you're not performing, off you go.
 
I think it was fair enough from Tuchel. He wasn't playing as I wanted but tomorrow it's forgotten is pretty much how he explained it
 
Not subbing a sub, but subbing an injured player before the game even kicked off. Jimmy Lawson v Bristol City - from 3min 40 secs in the below interview with Stan Anderson:

 
Graeme Souness did it a few times as a manager. I seem to remember him sending on then removing a bloke called Jimmy Carter when he manager at Liverpool, and then selling him shortly afterwards.
He also did it with the infamous Ali Dia 👍
 
I was perennial sub for Gillbrook when I was at school. One day a few lads hadn't turned up at school by the time the school bus was due to leave for a game at a school in Redcar somewhere so we set off without them and the teacher (who I can remember but won't name because I'm nice like that) rejigged his starting 11 from the players available.

Literally 2 minutes into the game and a car pulls up with a dad and all the lads who missed the bus. The teacher immediately subbed 4 of us and brought all 4 latecomers on.

I'd got up at stupid o clock on a Saturday morning, walked from Flatts Lane down to Gillly and never even touched the ball before being subbed. I was fuming and had to spend the rest of my morning standing around in Redcar because I couldn't get home without the school bus.

The next season the same teacher got talked into sending the reserve keeper on as a substitute striker in the County Cup final by all his mates (who were there watching) rather than sending on an actual striker from the bench (i.e me). He played like a keeper, we lost the final (to St Peters if I remember correctly) and I refused to play for the school again the following season.

Not quite a subbing the sub story but linked!
 
I was perennial sub for Gillbrook when I was at school. One day a few lads hadn't turned up at school by the time the school bus was due to leave for a game at a school in Redcar somewhere so we set off without them and the teacher (who I can remember but won't name because I'm nice like that) rejigged his starting 11 from the players available.

Literally 2 minutes into the game and a car pulls up with a dad and all the lads who missed the bus. The teacher immediately subbed 4 of us and brought all 4 latecomers on.

I'd got up at stupid o clock on a Saturday morning, walked from Flatts Lane down to Gillly and never even touched the ball before being subbed. I was fuming and had to spend the rest of my morning standing around in Redcar because I couldn't get home without the school bus.

The next season the same teacher got talked into sending the reserve keeper on as a substitute striker in the County Cup final by all his mates (who were there watching) rather than sending on an actual striker from the bench (i.e me). He played like a keeper, we lost the final (to St Peters if I remember correctly) and I refused to play for the school again the following season.

Not quite a subbing the sub story but linked!
Hmmm. It doesn't sound like your P.E teacher rated you :(
 
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I notice Thomas Tuchel hauled off Calum Hudson-Odoi after 30 minutes of a second-half appearance v Southampton - not enough effort in 'counter-pressing' (whatever that is). Apparently the lad (some would say naturally) made his displeasure clear. What are people's opinions on that? Personally, I think doing that any pro is harsh, and to a player of his calibre and profile is a risky strategy. Tuchel can probably get away it with the fans because he's started well, but he'll have to employ some psychology with Odoi for sure.

Has a Boro manager ever subbed a sub for being cr*p I wonder?
Yes they have. The most recent example was Jed Spence being subbed when we were playing away to Swansea on 6 March 2021.
 
Messing about with predicted line ups and that i've noticed Spence has to be double subbed to change the team.

Dijksteel, Fisher, Spence, Mendez-Laing all occupy the same space on the pitch but bring many different attributes. Dijksteels injury forces Warnock's hand with that and the position we found ourselves in later on in the game. Was between Dijksteel and Spence of who to start.. then we needed to change it up.

It's no Ali Dia situation, it's tactical.
 
His initial sub was wrong
Dijksteel injured so straight replacement with Fisher.
Instead he moved Howson back and pushed Spence further forward.
If he wanted Howson back in there he should have brought Kebano on instead of Spence.
 
Exactly it’s not really a sub being subbed situation as Spence came on early through injury so he was removed tactically later on.

no a sub subbed scenario for me.
 
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