Euros 2020 (really 2021)
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TheYorkshireTerrier
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MFP
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You might, but then you're putting faith in UEFA to support our bid over a confirmed joint bid of Spain-Portugal and for the FIFA panel to actually think they owe us it. I don't have that confidence in them and would rather we better our chances of hosting the WC than a half-arsed Euros.
JM14
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Good point, didnt think of it like that. Would hate to think the only time we likely host it in my lifetime is in this format last minute with no away fans. If its done correctly hosting the euros can completely transform some clubs and even some cities with the improvement in infrastructure as well as a load of jobs created.
On the plus side England will never have a better chance of winning anything than having every game at home
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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We certainly shouldn't offer to stage it. If asked to we should very reluctantly agree to it and then make it known that we are doing them a massive favour and will only do so if all of Europe agrees to vote for us to get the WC next time round.
Boro in Devon
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It should guarantee us some success. Full England squad vs quarantined other teams, could go for a full quarantine or a selective one.
However we would probably still lose to Germany on penalties.
However we would probably still lose to Germany on penalties.
Frozen Horse
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FIFA and UEFA are different bodies and, I think, there is sometimes friction between them as UEFA is seen as being too powerful by other federations.
I therefore don't think helping out UEFA would gain many brownie points with FIFA
However, I'd take the opportunity of hosting the Euros if it arose. I do think England has a bit work work to do in terms of convincing the world that it can organise good tournaments, and hosting successful Euros might help convince that we can handle the WC.
I therefore don't think helping out UEFA would gain many brownie points with FIFA
However, I'd take the opportunity of hosting the Euros if it arose. I do think England has a bit work work to do in terms of convincing the world that it can organise good tournaments, and hosting successful Euros might help convince that we can handle the WC.
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Corcaigh_the_Cat
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Have we qualified through having the most deaths?
Jedi boro
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That’s utter rubbish look at 2012 to see how well we handled the olympics.
we are one of the few counties that could host the euros or World Cup tomorrow with not a brick to lay. such is the level of our stadia.
In fact you could host it all in London and still justify it.
it is criminal how blattee did all he could stop us getting the World Cup and even more criminal that we have still only held it once when other nations inc European ones have held it multiple times.
There’s no doubt it was a personal vendetta By fifa (see Andrew Jennings book) So I’d like to see how they react now.
Frozen Horse
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And if we were convincing the IOC, that would be fine.
However, Euro 96 was not an overwhelming success was it? No one can blame the hosts for the poor standard of football on the pitch, but they can blame the 10k empty seats at most matches.
I've no idea how '66 is regarded from an organisational view and it was a very different time and 11 years before I was born. However, we did let the trophy be stolen, move one fixture due to greyhound racing and change another venue due to Newcastle not being ready. As I say, ancient history, but also not a proud record, and I've not heard of similar happening since.
As for your other point, France, Spain and Italy have only held it once each since '66, so it's not like we've somehow missed our turn. You could make a point about Germany, though technically and politicly West Germany and Germany are not the same.
There was a strong case for Russia in 2018 even though I'd have liked it to come to England. However, I suspect backhanders rather than vendettas played more of a part.
Centralscrutinizer
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It's about brown envelopes not brownie points.
Nero
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I've not read the book but it's clear that Blatter had a personal grudge with England. In a certain way I see FIFA's point. Only England's authority calls itself The Football Association. Why can't they have a bit of modesty and call themselves the English Football Association.
That said, it is baffling how England has only ever hosted two international football tournaments. The country is football crazy with the grounds and infrastructure to allow for a good competition.
I understand the 1996 argument, but put it into context. Club football (which is dominant in England) was only just changing. Most clubs had mainly British and Irish players. These days club football is cosmopolitan. At least in the Premier League and Championship. I think fans would go to non England games as they know most players well as many have played or play in England.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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The FA is called the FA because it was the first one. 
Nero
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And it's that attitude that makes them look pompous and arrogant.The FA is called the FA because it was the first one.
BoroMart
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European countries:
5 x France FIFA 38, UEFA 60, UEFA 84, FIFA 98, UEFA 16
4 x Italy FIFA 34, UEFA 68, UEFA 80, FIFA 90
4 x Germany FIFA 74, UEFA 88, FIFA 06 (scheduled for 2024)
2 x Spain UEFA 64, FIFA 82
2 x Sweden FIFA 58, UEFA 92
2 x England FIFA 66, UEFA 96
2 x Belgium UEFA 72, UEFA 00 (with Neth)
2 x Switzerland FIFA 54, UEFA 08 (with Aus)
1 x Netherlands UEFA 00 (with Belg)
1 x Yugoslavia UEFA 76
1 x Portugal UEFA 04
1 x Austria URFA 08 (with Switz)
1 x Pol/Ukr UEFA 12
France, Italy and Germany have clearly been favoured with 13 of the 28 european based competitions between them. Enough already, time for change. Italy got 3 competitions in just 22 years at one stage, we've had one in the last 55. France, Italy and Germany have all had 3 since 66, we've had one, even belgium have had 2 since 66.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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Its fact it's not pompous and arrogant. We should be proud of the fact that the game that originated on these shores came to be enjoyed around the world. Other nations certainly recognise it. Hence the home nations all having a seat on ifab. Hence the likes of Notts county and Corinthians being recognised by the clubs they inspired.
Nero
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I doubt that other countries take your very English view of it. Yes organised football originated in England. That was a very log time ago and the game has moved on massively since.