I don’t understand!

FatCat

FatCat

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Where are these people going to? Surely this number of people in the picture are not all travelling for a legally allowed reason(which reading the rules seems to be if it’s for work) Again the rules are there but the policing of it is useless. Like other countries these people on outbound flights should have a certificate to travel and if they don’t they should be fined and sent home.

Again with incoming passengers, why are they being fined and not sent home (assuming they are foreign nationals) if they don’t arrive with a negative test result as per the rules.

news.sky.com

COVID-19: Crowds at Heathrow Airport spark social distancing concerns

The airport claims social distancing in an airport environment is "not possible".
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I suspect sending travellers home could cause an international incident, I am not sure if there are international laws around deporting people, perhaps that is why they are fined.

Social distancing isn't possible as Heathrow confirm in the article. To handle the issue at airports we would have to close our borders for everything but essential reasons, imports, repatriation etc.

The problem Johnson has got is half his backbenchers don't want any lockdown or limitations so he is a bit hamstrung on how far he can go.
 
WeeGord said:
This might seem radical to some, but virtually the whole world needs to close it borders completely for a few weeks and allow each individual nation state to impose relevant restrictions and testing / isolation programs.
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It’s certainly an option - the borders have always been a weak point of entry - you can have as many lockdown rules as you want within a country but if you are still letting people in and out fairly freely then you will get problems.
 
I've just travelled through T5 to Qatar about a week ago and it was really quiet, no queues and people maintaining distancing pretty much, other than shuffling along the plane to your seat.
 
Caesium137 said:
I've just travelled through T5 to Qatar about a week ago and it was really quiet, no queues and people maintaining distancing pretty much, other than shuffling along the plane to your seat.
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Yes I don’t know whether the likes of the photos in the article are taken to make things look much worse than they are or whether the airports are really that packed on a regular basis.
Other than work or family emergencies or returning home I don’t understand why people would need or even want to travel.
 
Same here. Flew out here to NZ almost 2 weeks ago. Heathrow was very quiet. My plane had about 50 passengers on a 400 seater.

By the way the photo is of passengers in arrivals not departures so the question is “where have they come from” not where are they going to?
 
FatCat said:
It’s certainly an option - the borders have always been a weak point of entry - you can have as many lockdown rules as you want within a country but if you are still letting people in and out fairly freely then you will get problems.
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Not if they are effectively tested and isolated in quarantine surely?

I've been to Australia twice, Singapore and now Qatar during lockdowns. I have been required to have a reason to travel, been temperature tested, made health declarations and taken multiple PCR tests before being allowed freedom of movement in the country I arrived in. It was strict, well organised and handled well (especially in Western Australia), it is just another thing our pathetic shambles of a Government couldn't organise or implement effectively.
 
It has been baffling me for a long time that i live in a rural Northern village but cant visit my parents who live in the same village but people are still flying in and out of the country! Seems to me if you are trying to stop the spread of a virus the first thing to ban is international travel.
 
Abel Tasman said:
Same here. Flew out here to NZ almost 2 weeks ago. Heathrow was very quiet. My plane had about 50 passengers on a 400 seater.
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My flight from Singapore to Perth in August had only myself and my three colleagues on a Dreamliner! WA were only allowing 75 people a day in though!
 
ska66 said:
It has been baffling me for a long time that i live in a rural Northern village but cant visit my parents who live in the same village but people are still flying in and out of the country! Seems to me if you are trying to stop the spread of a virus the first thing to ban is international travel.
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Not if they are effectively tested and isolated in quarantine surely?

See above. You could say the same to football being played as well I suppose..............
 
Abel Tasman said:
Same here. Flew out here to NZ almost 2 weeks ago. Heathrow was very quiet. My plane had about 50 passengers on a 400 seater.

By the way the photo is of passengers in arrivals not departures so the question is “where have they come from” not where are they going to?
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Good point. Either way I just presumed airports would be very quiet at the moment and how you and other posters have described their travel experiences.
What’s your excuse - did you come home for Christmas?
 
Abel Tasman said:
By the way the photo is of passengers in arrivals not departures so the question is “where have they come from” not where are they going to?
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So maybe more of a result of Brexit immigration issues or a lack of counters open, forcing everyone through the self scan?

Manchester is always like that, boils my pl55...........
 
ska66 said:
It has been baffling me for a long time that i live in a rural Northern village but cant visit my parents who live in the same village but people are still flying in and out of the country! Seems to me if you are trying to stop the spread of a virus the first thing to ban is international travel.
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This is the post of the week.
 
Randy said:
This is the post of the week.
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But it is just a numbers game surely?

Couple of hundred thousand people coming in a week, with testing and quarantine, or 60 odd million people allowed to visit friends and families (who are all going to school and work etc and visiting their own friends and families houses) with no testing or quarantine afterwards.

One of those obviously has hundreds of millions more interactions and chances to spread the virus?
 
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Yep agrree. My beef is with office working before having a go at travellers going home. Obviously there were travellers (allowed by this Government) to go off to the Carribean over Xmas. That Love Island couple for example.
 
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