He's not campaigning as a tory, I never said that, you did. I mean he's just taking up a more "middle ground" stance, doing whatever it takes to get enough votes, which is the most important thing. You have to win first, in all the time we've had Corbyn, the country and it's leadership has gotten further and further right, and further and further south, it's literally killing us.I always chuckle seeing people make this sort of case. For Labour's leaders to campaign as tories, which will magically lead to victory, then when they're in office suddenly pivot to whatever other policies they really want. How are they meant to win a second term doing this? Won't all the new tory voters they've conned be even more anti-Labour than they've ever been at that point?
Bit of an understatement. How many CLPs have been banned from having meetings recently?
Who will Labour be able to go in to a coalition with? Realistically SNP would be the only possible option. Wonder what their price would be.
If you don't wan the tories in, you have to grab the voters and bring them with you, you cant have your cake and eat it, like Labour were trying with Corbyn, we have too many d***heads in the UK to get that through.
We just don't have enough people that think Corbyn's way to win and he was also not a good enough leader and not good enough up against the Tories in Westminster. I would rather Starmer get 5/10 of Labours good ideas through is than Corbyn getting through 0/15 of the Labours good ideas. You have to win, or be able to form a winning coalition, if you don't win you let the others win, which will massively fcuk over your own party and voters.
It's not a pivot (certainly nowhere near what the tories have done), as we wouldn't be re-joining the EU, not anytime within the next decade anyway. Joining the SM and CU can de done outside of the EU. Plus it's 4 years away before the next GE and would be at least 10 before any major changes like that. People are allowed to change their minds, even more so when public opinion will change, once this clusterfcuck becomes more apparent.
I don't mid a coalition with the SNP, I'd much rather that than the Tories who are going further and further right, and further and further south.