Five guys

Prefer a Byron if I`m honest

Chilli Burger & fries all washed down with a Strawberry Milkshake ( with Malt ) with a double vodka chaser
 

London_Boro said:
Indeed. I work right by here in the square. German Gymnasium is amazing for food and beers
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I'm not a fan of it at all for food, although I don't mind it for drinking.

Mrs Jumpers is a big fan, and used to visit a couple of times a month when staying at the Renaissance round the corner, but I find it a bit meh (although it must be said I'm not a huge fan of German cuisine so not exactly the target market).
 
Five Guys, Byron etc are not a patch on some American diners where you can pick up amuch better burger for $5 or so (although granted you'd have a long and costly journey to get there).

One of my favorite burgers is probably at the Burger Joint at the Parker Meridien Hotel in Manhattan, both for the actual burgers as well as the ambiance and novelty.
 
There's a great place in East London, Brick lane way and I can't remember the name. Might actually just be The Diner?

Red Dog Saloon in Shoreditch does a good burger too.
 
London_Boro said:
There's a great place in East London, Brick lane way and I can't remember the name. Might actually just be The Diner?

Red Dog Saloon in Shoreditch does a good burger too.
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I went to Red Dog a few years back as an alternative to Bodeans, and wasn't that impressed but it was very close to Christmas and they were pretty busy - maybe when this is all over I'll give it another go !
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
If gourmet Burgers are your thing and in future you find yourself near Kings Cross station then if you can get a seat go to the German Gymnasium. For about £12 you can get the GG Burger with cheese and fries - almost the same price as Five Guys but with better quality and much better ambience. Washed down with a stein of German lager. What’s not to like.
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Agree there. The German gymnasium is a cracking place. How much has kings cross changed? From working girls and drug addicts to gourmet restaurants, colleges and a world class research facility.
 
SmallTown said:
Agree there. The German gymnasium is a cracking place. How much has kings cross changed? From working girls and drug addicts to gourmet restaurants, colleges and a world class research facility.
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Yeah, I much preferred it back in the early 90's when I first started coming to London before it was gentrified. Although that said I do like Coal Drops Yard for both shopping and eating.

I was in what was the Flying Scotsman before the Brentford away game last season, and it's now just a generic craft beer bar, not a patch on its previous self.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Yeah, I much preferred it back in the early 90's when I first started coming to London before it was gentrified. Although that said I do like Coal Drops Yard for both shopping and eating.

I was in what was the Flying Scotsman before the Brentford away game last season, and it's now just a generic craft beer bar, not a patch on its previous self.
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The church club
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Yeah, I much preferred it back in the early 90's when I first started coming to London before it was gentrified. Although that said I do like Coal Drops Yard for both shopping and eating.

I was in what was the Flying Scotsman before the Brentford away game last season, and it's now just a generic craft beer bar, not a patch on its previous self.
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I'm not sure I did. I have no need for prostitutes and hard drugs! Its a great place to be in now
 
SmallTown said:
I'm not sure I did. I have no need for prostitutes and hard drugs! Its a great place to be in now
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nor do I, but you're focusing on two very specific, negative, things about it.

It had a gritty realism which every city should have - whether it be the dingy pubs with the all day drinkers, the warehouse parties in the disused industrial buildings which became the petri dish in which Acid House, and subsequently chart dance music, was grown, or the blend of small independent businesses into the sheds behind the station harking back to when London was more than a tourist destination and playground for rich foreigners.

It's now a generic, upmarket shopping area with a few decent places to eat thrown in - like you'd find in most other parts of the city, and in many cities across the world.

Soho is just about there too now, and there's very few places left in the city that haven't been gentrified. Someone who puts all this far more eloquently than me is Robert Elms, and if you've got time I'd recommend listening to his London Society lecture from a couple of months back.

The London Society - The 2020 Banister Fletcher Lecture. Robert Elms: "cities need slums"

The London Society - The 2020 Banister Fletcher Lecture. Robert Elms: "cities need slums"
www.londonsociety.org.uk www.londonsociety.org.uk
 
SE4 Red said:
South East London is where it's at now Lizards for a bit of gritty realism although even Deptford is changing before my very eyes.
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Yeah, the creatives / inventors are being forced further and further out, and what is considered central "London" is stretched outwards - that's another thing Elm's talks about in that link and in his book London Made Us, which is a great read.

Happens in cities across the world, but doesn't make it any less of a pity.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Yeah, I much preferred it back in the early 90's when I first started coming to London before it was gentrified. Although that said I do like Coal Drops Yard for both shopping and eating.

I was in what was the Flying Scotsman before the Brentford away game last season, and it's now just a generic craft beer bar, not a patch on its previous self.
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There's still some dirty old pubs in the kings cross area, just not immediately. You need to walk a few streets over.

The Skinners Arms on Judd Street is still a decent and proper pub, and McGlynns on Whidborne Street is a cracker. Irish pub, but like having a pint in someone's front room. :)

I do love what they have done with Kings Cross though, as you said, it's a million miles away from what it was when I moved here in 1995. But it's an amazing transformation.
 
London_Boro said:
There's still some dirty old pubs in the kings cross area, just not immediately. You need to walk a few streets over.

The Skinners Arms on Judd Street is still a decent and proper pub, and McGlynns on Whidborne Street is a cracker. Irish pub, but like having a pint in someone's front room. :)

I do love what they have done with Kings Cross though, as you said, it's a million miles away from what it was when I moved here in 1995. But it's an amazing transformation.
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yeah a fan of McGlynns, as well as The Boot on Cromer Street, but you have to search them out a bit more now.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
nor do I, but you're focusing on two very specific, negative, things about it.

It had a gritty realism which every city should have - whether it be the dingy pubs with the all day drinkers, the warehouse parties in the disused industrial buildings which became the petri dish in which Acid House, and subsequently chart dance music, was grown, or the blend of small independent businesses into the sheds behind the station harking back to when London was more than a tourist destination and playground for rich foreigners.

It's now a generic, upmarket shopping area with a few decent places to eat thrown in - like you'd find in most other parts of the city, and in many cities across the world.

Soho is just about there too now, and there's very few places left in the city that haven't been gentrified. Someone who puts all this far more eloquently than me is Robert Elms, and if you've got time I'd recommend listening to his London Society lecture from a couple of months back.

The London Society - The 2020 Banister Fletcher Lecture. Robert Elms: "cities need slums"

The London Society - The 2020 Banister Fletcher Lecture. Robert Elms: "cities need slums"
www.londonsociety.org.uk www.londonsociety.org.uk
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Everything started to change in the 90s. London was still affordable then and it was still like you describe and each area still had its tribes.
 
Will they still be going ahead with the opening as planned or wait until Easter time when things are supposed to be settled down?
 
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