Liverpool cranking up the pressure on Everton and Pickford

I have never said or it was a conspiracy against Liverpool, nor to the best of my knowledge anyway, have Liverpool themselves, so not sure why you would imply that there were. :unsure: I have merely said Justice was not done and nor has it retrospectively been seen to be done, which I believe is wrong.
You are absolutely right. BUT. It if had been us on the receiving end you can 100% know that nobody outside of our Club would have bothered to talk about it. There’s been wall to wall debates over the tackle on Talksport for a start. Its no wonder some people are sick of the incident already. This stuff happens. To us, every Club. It doesn’t get the same coverage. Not by a long chalk.
 
You are absolutely right. BUT. It if had been us on the receiving end you can 100% know that nobody outside of our Club would have bothered to talk about it. There’s been wall to wall debates over the tackle on Talksport for a start. Its no wonder some people are sick of the incident already. This stuff happens. To us, every Club. It doesn’t get the same coverage. Not by a long chalk.
That's just a 'big club' thing.
 
You are absolutely right. BUT. It if had been us on the receiving end you can 100% know that nobody outside of our Club would have bothered to talk about it. There’s been wall to wall debates over the tackle on Talksport for a start. Its no wonder some people are sick of the incident already. This stuff happens. To us, every Club. It doesn’t get the same coverage. Not by a long chalk.

I agree, but is that Liverpools fault, or the fault of the media love in? We claimed we were victims in 1997, we even went to court over it claiming injustice. In reality, as it has transpired, we were not really victims, we shot ourselves in the foot and paid a heavy price, but it really was our own fault. We only had ourselves to blame. Even Hignett admitted we could have put a team out and after the game was called off, we had a reasonable squad training on the day.

My point being we have played the victim ourselves and we made no bones about it at the cup final. We were misguided in hindsight.
 
How many 2 footers did gerrard put in

Why don’t people get it, it is not about the attempted tackle, it is about the lack of punishment for serious foul play ENDANGERING an opponent. Nobody is excusing any Liverpool player of anything they have done. I really don’t feel whataboutery has any place in justice being done and being seen to be done re Pickford.
 
Why don’t people get it, it is not about the attempted tackle, it is about the lack of punishment for serious foul play ENDANGERING an opponent. Nobody is excusing any Liverpool player of anything they have done. I really don’t feel whataboutery has any place in justice being done and being seen to be done re Pickford.

That is very fair
This is also how Liverpool have reacted to their injustice though.
Basically saying Everton are ‘always dirty’. Now Klopp wants the ref punished for making a mistake.
Sh1t happens in football, it always does and always has.

Handling the bad and good with humility is a challenge but worthwhile doing.
 
The problem I have is Liverpool and their fans are taking their ire out on Pickford and Everton when they should be taking it out on VAR, the FA and Premier League. It’s now just a excuse to abuse and attack their main rival rather than get justice as he should of been sent off/banned.
 
I think the bigger picture here is klopp is trying to ramp up the pressure on officials to lean in his favour. I wouldn't be surprised if someone is sent off against Liverpool in the next couple of games.
 
That is very fair
This is also how Liverpool have reacted to their injustice though.
Basically saying Everton are ‘always dirty’. Now Klopp wants the ref punished for making a mistake.
Sh1t happens in football, it always does and always has.

Handling the bad and good with humility is a challenge but worthwhile doing.

Look how we used to moan about how Juninho was targeted, Robson and McClaren both were very vocal about a lack of protection from officials for our top players at times. Teams used to dish it out to stop Traore, we moaned as fans, Pulis moaned as a manager. Klopp has every right to moan. He isn’t stopping other managers and coaches doing the same. I agree sh1t happens and always will. VAR was supposed to stop most of it, it really just creates different sh1t. Klopp has every right to moan and defend as he sees fit, I expect Warnock or whoever was manager to do that for Boro. Van Dijks career as a top player has been seriously put at risk. ACL recoveries are not guaranteed as we know only too well.

I am no Liverpool fan, but on this i do side with them
 
He wasn't booked, the ref took no action whatsoever, neither did VAR. I'm no fan of Liverpool and watched the game desperately hoping for an Everton win but I agree with pretty much every pundit and ex ref who have expressed an opinion on it, it was one of the worst and most reckless "tackles" I've ever seen and was a very obvious red card.
I don't think Liverpools annoyance is principally with Pickford but with the utterly ridiculous inconsistency and insanity inducing incompetencey of VAR. Something which was highlighted by a last minute derby winner being disallowed due to a player alledgedly being literally a millimetre offside.
BIN VAR 👍
 
It doesn't matter who was playing who, or if the player in question dishes it out, I don't care for either team, that tackle should not have gone unpunished & after having video evidence, he should be given a 3 match ban, disgraceful thug of a tackle, you'll see a lot less get sent off
 
‘One the most worst and reckless tackles I’ve see’

talk about hyperbole. It was stupid and late.

wasn’t in the league of some of the other tackles across the years. There wasn’t intent

carragher nailed it
Come on Gaz, take the Liverpool hatred hat off for a second.
Pickford has clearly gone and 'done him'. What better way to get the fans back on your side and with that, a bit of confidence, then wipe out one of your rival's better players in a top of the table derby clash?
Even if that wasn't the case how he never even got booked for it astounds me. It's up there with Keane's assault on Haarland.
 
Pickford’s was aggressive and as clumsy as you’d expect a keeper trying a slide tackle to be, and Everton were playing at derby pace for the match and being aggressive but I didn’t think it was genuinely malicious. If anything just very clumsy.

Richarlison’s on Thiago at the end was worse. That for me was almost a horror tackle and he meant it, heads had gone by then.

Hate all of this “Pickford should be banned until Van Dijk recovers” nonsense that always comes up when these things happen. It’s football, it’s an extremely fast paced contact sport, injuries happen and always will and often whether a player comes out with a serious injury or not is just bad luck - Thiago walking away from Richarlison’s tackle is an example of that. You don’t get many Kevin Muscat types who actually go out to hurt people nowadays, they wouldn’t last five minutes with the pace and technical quality in the Premier League now.

It’s sad not to see a fantastic player like Van Dijk be able to play for the season, as he’s as good as it gets, and really unlucky for Liverpool, but there we are. Hope he makes a full recovery and gets back to his best and Pickford’s biggest worry should be sorting out his near post.
 
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