How Can Our Club Connect To You?

If we have empty seats, and lots of them, but we have a town full of people wanting to go then something isn't working.

This is the thing, though. If we have empty seats, it’s because people don’t actually want to go.

This time last season when we were flying, it was close to a sell out every week.
 
Some great ideas here.
The Forum has asked for open training days again and again - it seems the coaches can be reluctant with this rather than the club. But there must be some way around it.
I think mybe just a couple of open training days would be a great and cost free way of especially family's connecting more with the club
 
Ticket giveaways to schools/grassroot football clubs.

They currently offer grassroot teams opportunities to do flags / half time penalties / walk outs, which is great. But they charge full price for the kids and parents to attend. Would it hurt to make these opportunities complimentary? One of the teams I run consists of 12 players. We were on the waiting list for a few months to do the flags. When it eventually became their turn the club told us the costs and 3 of the families said they wouldn't be able to afford the £50+ at short notice to attend. We ended up covering it out of our team account with funds that were supposed to be ring fenced for kits/equipment then having to replace that with a bit of fundraising. I just feel like that's something the club doesn't need to charge for. As a team we didn't want them to miss out. Those 3 kids had never attended a match and probably never will again so it was a great experience for them but they could have easily missed out on that due to cost.

Opening up the training ground for spectators and autographs. I know this has been discussed before and it's not something the club are keen on. Could they do the odd open day or a pre-season open week where people can go and watch them train and potentially do a bit of meet and greet?
It's daft to charge for this sort of thing. Loads of my lads mates in York in the team he plays for are tempted to be Boro fans, which is amazing. Having an opportunity to do the flags/penalty shoot out for free or token amount would possibly be a clincher. It's about thinking long term and building the community of Boro fans.
 
This is the thing, though. If we have empty seats, it’s because people don’t actually want to go.

This time last season when we were flying, it was close to a sell out every week.

It was nowhere near to a sell out.

When we beat Norwich 5-1 to send us 3rd with 4 games to go, there were 26,000 there.

When we beat Hull 3-1 in the next match, to confirm our place in the play-offs, there were under 25,000 there.
 
It was nowhere near to a sell out.

When we beat Norwich 5-1 to send us 3rd with 4 games to go, there were 26,000 there.


from jan to May I think attendances were in the 25-28k range. With unsold away allocations… probably around 85-90% sold on average.

I wouldn’t class that as “lots of empty seats”
 
from jan to May I think attendances were in the 25-28k range. With unsold away allocations probably around 85-90% sold on average.

I wouldn’t class that as “lots of empty seats”

There were a handful of matches from January to May that went above 28,000.

Most of them were significantly below that.

The match against Burnley and the last game of the season against Coventry boosted the average massively, up to 27,000.

So that's 20% of the stadium empty on average from January to May.

Absolutely nowhere close to a sell-out every week, and that was during the period where we were playing the best football we've played in decades.
 
These are fantastic crowds, by any historical comparison.

They aren't close to sell-outs, or an indication that the club doesn't need to do a thing to encourage fans.

That was the best period this club has had in a long, long time on the pitch and it wasn't close to full.
 
They aren't close to sell-outs, or an indication that the club doesn't need to do a thing to encourage fans.

That was the best period this club has had in a long, long time on the pitch and it wasn't close to full.
We are not going to sell out in the second tier. That doesn't mean are crowds aren't good.
 
I think that is the point, as you rightly say, he said we want to smash the league, not we are going to smash the league. He was so often misquoted I believe it made him very wary for sometime.
He has said this season that he wants to engage with fans a couple of times a year. Would that make a big difference do you think?
It would be a good start if the main figurehead of the club was more commutative with the fans and make us feel appreciated and part of things - he was misquoted as you say, but he should still have risen above the criticism, if only for the good of the club.
 
This is the thing, though. If we have empty seats, it’s because people don’t actually want to go.

This time last season when we were flying, it was close to a sell out every week.
You are making the mistake in thinking that there are not multiple categories of people with different circumstances.

There are loads of people that won't/can't pay £30+ whether we are the best team in the league or the worst and there are some that will pay £50 to see us when we're winning regularly and wouldn't pay anything when we aren't. There are lots of people that are somewhere in between both of those circumstances.

I.e. there are people that are price elastic and people that are performance elastic.
 
Win games.

It really is that simple.

Win lots of games we’ll get 25-30k there.

Lose lots of games and we’ll get 15-22k there.

History shows these are our benchmark attendances. You can throw in all your promotional offers and cuddly toys or whatever, but that’s where the attendances will be at
 
We are not going to sell out in the second tier. That doesn't mean are crowds aren't good.

I never said they weren't good.

AytonMews said they were close to sell-outs every week and implied that the only reason there could be issues with people not wanting to go is because we're not winning as many games.

Even when we were in incredible form, scoring goals for fun and winning almost every week, we weren't anywhere near selling out, beyond a few obvious exceptions like Boxing Day and the last league match of the season.
 
It was nowhere near to a sell out.

When we beat Norwich 5-1 to send us 3rd with 4 games to go, there were 26,000 there.

When we beat Hull 3-1 in the next match, to confirm our place in the play-offs, there were under 25,000 there.
Crowds are well above our historical average of around 20000 - we aren’t a big city club and our support is very good, especially when you take into consideration our ticket prices compared to most
 
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