Neil Warnock on Brexit: I cannot wait to get out of the EU!

I’m not so sure, even though each vote carried the same weight, that each choice was equally valid.

I mean, my logic is that if someone tells me that instead of my usual clearly labelled reasonably priced lunch that there is a new meal waiting for me I’d ask a) to know what this new meal actually was and b) it’s price.

But hey some people believe an equally logical way to go through life is to hand over their card and PIN number first, sign a sold as (un)seen no refund no backing out waiver clause and only then ask to see what is under the lid.

Here is your Duck Surprise, bon appetit.

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No it doesn’t

The vast majority of the U.K. did not vote to leave the EU

My view all along was that nobody over the age of 50 should have had a vote anyway

The UK hardly ever (if ever) not checked over 50% for any decision... government or referendum. You can’t claim the non voters as being on “a side” could equally claim the percentage that didn’t vote weren’t bothered about staying therefore supported leave

A thread started light heartedly overrun by the anti Brexit brigade (that don’t live here aswell) .... the hypocrisy 😆
 
The UK hardly ever (if ever) not checked over 50% for any decision... government or referendum. You can’t claim the non voters as being on “a side” could equally claim the percentage that didn’t vote weren’t bothered about staying therefore supported leave

A thread started light heartedly overrun by the anti Brexit brigade (that don’t live here aswell) .... the hypocrisy 😆
I don't live in the UK but I don't see how it's hypocritical.
First, I have a UK passport and thus a right of abode so what happens could potentially impact me , my kids etc.
Second, I've paid and continue to pay a decent amount of taxes to the UK Govt.
Third, weren't we meant to be taking back control for all British citizens/subjects?
 
Manufacturing jobs have moved to cheaper areas of the EU.

Slovakia is now a major vehicle producer and vehicles there are produced for Land Rover
Peugeot closed its Coventry factory and expanded in Slovakia
Terry's chocolate moved all their York production to Slovakia
Cadbury's moved some of their production to Poland from the UK
Sony closed its Welsh factory, but expanded its factory in Hungary
Wedgewood closed its production facilities in Stoke and moved the production to Portugal
Believe or not a lot of our sandwiches are made in Hungary.

I do agree manufacturing jobs have also been lost in large numbers to countries like China and Bangledesh. The UK became a high cost producer with an over valued currency - it was in the ERM until September 1992 and the pound was overvalued by Labour when in power as they hoped or expected they would join the Euro. This negatively affected manufacturing, but less so services as they are harder to import/export. A net £8bn a year is given to the EU budgets which is money that could have used to support manufacturing in economically deprived areas of the UK.

I do agree UK Governments in Westminster have shown limited interest since 1979 in supporting the left behind areas, but in England we have never had a chance of voting on completely getting rid of Central Governments from Westminster. Not being part of the EU government doesn't mean not working with European partners as Swiss companies do quite nicely with EU partners.
 
Sadly it's typical held response of people with a certain mindset of his generation. I will never be able to understand it.
 
A stunning statement of incredible intellectual arrogance.
Huge turnout, majority vote, clearly endorsed in recent General Election.
I respect anybody's right to be disappointed and not to want to leave the EU, but it was a major democratic exercise.

Give over, it wasn't clearly endorsed in the general election at all. The majority of voters voted for parties either in favour of remain or at least in favour of another referendum.

There is a very real possibility that the majority of country do not want Brexit. Polls (I know, but still a good indicator and they've changed their methods) show a majority in favour of remain, the original vote was very close to begin with and demographics have shifted. It is a fact that younger people are far more likely to vote remain and a lot have become eligible to vote since the referendum.

So let's not pretend this is definitely what the overwhelming majority of the country want eh? It "might" be what the majority of the country want but there are considerable question marks over that. We just don't know and if it is in favour of leaving it's almost certainly a slim majority in favour.

You won were leaving etc so not entirely sure why some in the leave camp are so desperate to believe there's a big majority well behind this decision. Because it doesn't make any difference to what's happening now.
 
A stunning statement of incredible intellectual arrogance.
Huge turnout, majority vote, clearly endorsed in recent General Election.
I respect anybody's right to be disappointed and not to want to leave the EU, but it was a major democratic exercise.
Spot on

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Give over, it wasn't clearly endorsed in the general election at all. The majority of voters voted for parties either in favour of remain or at least in favour of another referendum.

There is a very real possibility that the majority of country do not want Brexit. Polls (I know, but still a good indicator and they've changed their methods) show a majority in favour of remain, the original vote was very close to begin with and demographics have shifted. It is a fact that younger people are far more likely to vote remain and a lot have become eligible to vote since the referendum.

So let's not pretend this is definitely what the overwhelming majority of the country want eh? It "might" be what the majority of the country want but there are considerable question marks over that. We just don't know and if it is in favour of leaving it's almost certainly a slim majority in favour.

You won were leaving etc so not entirely sure why some in the leave camp are so desperate to believe there's a big majority well behind this decision. Because it doesn't make any difference to what's happening now.
Festa you are simply living in denial.
Even the Labour party acknowledged their dismal showing was in the main due to their bizarre stance on Brexit.
The Greens, LibDems and the Separatist Nationalists were the only parties who stood for Remain and overturn. They were trounced.
Labour vote was massively split and a long way from all Remain. Those who voted Conservative knew what that primarily meant in that election.

You might not like it - you clearly don't - but it was a massive endorsement of a Brexit.
If Labour had got its **** in gear earlier, there might have been a "softer" Brexit.
But too many Remainers arrogantly assumed they would obviously prevail.
Personified by Gina Miller and Tony Blair.
 
Festa you are simply living in denial.
Even the Labour party acknowledged their dismal showing was in the main due to their bizarre stance on Brexit.
The Greens, LibDems and the Separatist Nationalists were the only parties who stood for Remain and overturn. They were trounced.
Labour vote was massively split and a long way from all Remain. Those who voted Conservative knew what that primarily meant in that election.

You might not like it - you clearly don't - but it was a massive endorsement of a Brexit.
If Labour had got its **** in gear earlier, there might have been a "softer" Brexit.
But too many Remainers arrogantly assumed they would obviously prevail.
Personified by Gina Miller and Tony Blair.

Good rant. Shame it doesn't actually address any of the points raised. Ironically much like the brexit campaign. All hot air and very little substance.
 
Good rant. Shame it doesn't actually address any of the points raised. Ironically much like the brexit campaign. All hot air and very little substance.
It really is not a rant Festa, it is a response to your post and it most certainly covers that. Yours is a post full of hot air.
Keep on sticking your fingers in your ears and covering your eyes though.
 
I don't agree with nazism and facism but people should be allowed to express their views (obviously within reason) without fear of repirsals etc

He's entitled to his opinion, and i'm entitled to call it out for what it is, insantity.
 
I take issue with the "majority" claim. Very debatable. But that aside it's a light hearted thread that shows just because you might have different views on brexit doesn't mean you can't get behind a common cause. Which makes a nice change.


Very debatable ?

Not really. We've had years debating Brexit both before and after a Referendum which if I remember was 51%/49% to leave the EU. I accepted it. I would have accepted the opposite view. No problem.
 
Very debatable ?

Not really. We've had years debating Brexit both before and after a Referendum which if I remember was 51%/49% to leave the EU. I accepted it. I would have accepted the opposite view. No problem.

52:48, but I agree.
I too would also have accepted the vote going the other way.
 
52:48, but I agree.
I too would also have accepted the vote going the other way.

While this is admirable for a private citizen, it doesn't really apply in this case. I) it wouldn't make any change to your life as we'd be continuing the status quo. ii) I find it v hard to believe that the advocates of Brexit would have let it lie - look at the Scottish Nationalists. Especially if the vote was as close.
 
Neil's a bit of a reactionary,like a lot of our electorate. Heyho, let's hope it doesn't stop him being a good football manager!
 
We are no longer a member of the EU, it's done, so there's no benefit to abusing people who voted a different way from you.

Best we can hope for is that the clown in charge is able to secure and acceptable deal before the transition period ends.

In a way, the pandemic will probably make the fallout easier as the whole world will be in the **** regardless of what happens with negotiations.
 
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