It’s looking like a potential landslide victory for Joe Biden

entirely might not be fair, largely IS fair. Newspapers no longer exist to cater to newsreaders, they cater to the needs of the owners and their political ideologies. The Guardian is one that does do a lot of investigative journalism, Cadwalladr is a great example of that, an award winning journalist respected in her industry. However 95% of the British public are too lazy or uninterested in truth, in rooting out corruption to read her stuff. The general public, although liking individual left wing policies, such as protecting the NHS (not as a slogan, but actually protecting it), or privatising the trains, are enticed by stories of scandal and fear to 'news'papers such as The Sun. It's much easier to stoke fear than any other emotion.

The propensity for buying right wing papers, isn't a commentary on the British peoples base political desires, but on their fears.
Is it
 
Of course it is, The Sun and The Mail have promoted hate and fear over balanced analysis for many, many years. People buy it for the sensationalism, soundbites and lack of depth. No one buys it to weigh up the pros and cons of a political situation and come to a balanced conclusion. They don't even hide it "It was The Sun that won it"
 
The problem with your argument, Boromart, is that there are 2 left-wing dailies in the UK: Daily Mirror and Guardian, so the mainstream media is clearly not entirely owned by right-wing billionaires. The problem for the Mirror and the Guardian is that not many people buy them, which indicates that catering to left-wing views is not attractive to the majority of newspaper readers.

Couple of points
Being ‘not right wing’ isn’t the same as being ‘left wing’. I think we all get a bit lazy with these kinds of descriptions.
The Guardian was ‘anti Corbyn’ at the last election and pretty much covers a number of bases with reports these days. They have contributors from all sides of the political spectrum. I reckon it lost it’s ‘left wing’ status some time ago.
Similarly Telegraph, Times and even The Spectator have written flattering articles about Starmer and piled into Johnson lately. Perhaps hedging their bets.

The printed media is, however, no longer the real driver of persuasion these days. It is social media.
Cummings is part of the Conservative leadership campaign for a reason - he is brilliant at using social media.
The Republicans were superb at using it during Trump’s election victory.

The question is why are Democrats and Labour/Lib Dem et al so far behind? After all it ought to be relatively simple.
We have to look at who owns social media, who spends on it, who supports the ‘mis information’.
In the end the rich and powerful who decide to support a certain administration will put their support into the right social media channels.
 
Thats what Fake News wants you to believe..
The Truth will be the Polar opposite..
Get youre money on Trump early my friend
whilst the odds are long..
KERCHING
 
Not a bad call Plaz, but at 195/1 I'm thinking of a few quid on Kamala Harris, especially when the dems dump Biden before the election
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The question is why are Democrats and Labour/Lib Dem et al so far behind? After all it ought to be relatively simple.

For some reason the left think it is enough to make comedy memes and videos mocking the right instead of using it as a platform to say why their position is worth pursuing. It gets plenty of likes and views but only from people that already agree. A lot of the fake news rubbish at least tries to sell something better, not always obviously, it is often just batshit conspiracy rubbish.
 
Thats what Fake News wants you to believe..
The Truth will be the Polar opposite..
Get youre money on Trump early my friend
whilst the odds are long..
KERCHING
throw your money away my friend, ain't gonna happen. He is so scared that he looking to delay the election because of the conspiracy theory of mail voter fraud.
 
throw your money away my friend, ain't gonna happen. He is so scared that he looking to delay the election because of the conspiracy theory of mail voter fraud.
‘Conspiracy theory’. Lol you really need to wake up.
As I said I’m not ‘brain washed’ by any mainstream media because I don’t read or watch any of it.
You all take things at face value and don’t look beyond the surface level stuff, Twitter have been censoring for years, Facebook staff were censoring trump Related news/ads. Chinese and russian shills flood western social media with propaganda.
Nothing is real it is all bull****, all a show. There are plenty of shady connections if you look deep enough, the whole George Floyd and chauvin stuff. They worked together for 20 years in a club that was involved with importing counterfeit money, floyd was originally arrested for spending counterfeit money.
people can’t hold funerals for family members yet George Floyds golden casket went on a tour of America?
 
‘Conspiracy theory’. Lol you really need to wake up.
As I said I’m not ‘brain washed’ by any mainstream media because I don’t read or watch any of it.
You all take things at face value and don’t look beyond the surface level stuff, Twitter have been censoring for years, Facebook staff were censoring trump Related news/ads. Chinese and russian shills flood western social media with propaganda.
Nothing is real it is all bull****, all a show. There are plenty of shady connections if you look deep enough, the whole George Floyd and chauvin stuff. They worked together for 20 years in a club that was involved with importing counterfeit money, floyd was originally arrested for spending counterfeit money.
people can’t hold funerals for family members yet George Floyds golden casket went on a tour of America?

Wow, brainwashed by alternative media and internet memes.

- Facebook have allowed Trump to post all kinds of untrue nonsense for years. FACT
- There is zero evidence of any significant mail voter fraud FACT
- Trump was asked during 2016 election to provide evidence of such fraud but didn't FACT
- Trump started an investigation into voter fraud upon taking office but here we are 4 years later with no evidence FACT
- I agree Chinese and Russians flood propoganda, some of them are even in league with right wing politicians here and in the states, it's why we have the 3 B's Boris, Brexit and b****d Cummings.
- Plenty of things are real, if you thin nothing is real then you are clearly living in the matrix
- Shady connections, of course, Cummings and Russia, Trump and Russia, Boris and Russia.
- Your comments on Floyd and Chauvin is conspiracy nonsense. They overlapped at the same establishment, yes, did they ever come into contact, possibly, was the club involved in counterfeit money, there is zero evidence of this. Did a known counterfeit money launderer get a job as a policeman, well it seems unlikely. You would think if Chauvins background was working with Floyd on counterfeit money then the last thing he would do is get involved with Floyd in his job as a cop.
- His casket was gold, well it takes about 2 seconds to search and find the go fund me that his brother set up and the 15m it raised will more than have covered for the 25k casket. It didn't go on a tour of America, it went to a handful of significant places where his friends and family where. I guess that is a way for them to pay respects before laying him to rest. You are looking for nonsense where there isn't any, because you want this to be conspiratorial in some way.

Honestly, you read some internet memes, and throw some conspiracies together but accuse others of being brainwashed by mainstream media. Your kind of easily manipulated mindset are exactly why the world is so messed up.
 
I wont believe it until I actually see Trump loading his gold plated tat out of the back door of the white house and into the back door of a transit van .

The media will continue to give him round the clock coverage over any little thing he does or says, so I doubt that this is the end of it yet.
 
Wow, brainwashed by alternative media and internet memes.

- Facebook have allowed Trump to post all kinds of untrue nonsense for years. FACT
- There is zero evidence of any significant mail voter fraud FACT
- Trump was asked during 2016 election to provide evidence of such fraud but didn't FACT
- Trump started an investigation into voter fraud upon taking office but here we are 4 years later with no evidence FACT
- I agree Chinese and Russians flood propoganda, some of them are even in league with right wing politicians here and in the states, it's why we have the 3 B's Boris, Brexit and b****d Cummings.
- Plenty of things are real, if you thin nothing is real then you are clearly living in the matrix
- Shady connections, of course, Cummings and Russia, Trump and Russia, Boris and Russia.
- Your comments on Floyd and Chauvin is conspiracy nonsense. They overlapped at the same establishment, yes, did they ever come into contact, possibly, was the club involved in counterfeit money, there is zero evidence of this. Did a known counterfeit money launderer get a job as a policeman, well it seems unlikely. You would think if Chauvins background was working with Floyd on counterfeit money then the last thing he would do is get involved with Floyd in his job as a cop.
- His casket was gold, well it takes about 2 seconds to search and find the go fund me that his brother set up and the 15m it raised will more than have covered for the 25k casket. It didn't go on a tour of America, it went to a handful of significant places where his friends and family where. I guess that is a way for them to pay respects before laying him to rest. You are looking for nonsense where there isn't any, because you want this to be conspiratorial in some way.

Honestly, you read some internet memes, and throw some conspiracies together but accuse others of being brainwashed by mainstream media. Your kind of easily manipulated mindset are exactly why the world is so messed up.
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Wow, brainwashed by alternative media and internet memes.

- Facebook have allowed Trump to post all kinds of untrue nonsense for years. FACT
- There is zero evidence of any significant mail voter fraud FACT
- Trump was asked during 2016 election to provide evidence of such fraud but didn't FACT
- Trump started an investigation into voter fraud upon taking office but here we are 4 years later with no evidence FACT
- I agree Chinese and Russians flood propoganda, some of them are even in league with right wing politicians here and in the states, it's why we have the 3 B's Boris, Brexit and b****d Cummings.
- Plenty of things are real, if you thin nothing is real then you are clearly living in the matrix
- Shady connections, of course, Cummings and Russia, Trump and Russia, Boris and Russia.
- Your comments on Floyd and Chauvin is conspiracy nonsense. They overlapped at the same establishment, yes, did they ever come into contact, possibly, was the club involved in counterfeit money, there is zero evidence of this. Did a known counterfeit money launderer get a job as a policeman, well it seems unlikely. You would think if Chauvins background was working with Floyd on counterfeit money then the last thing he would do is get involved with Floyd in his job as a cop.
- His casket was gold, well it takes about 2 seconds to search and find the go fund me that his brother set up and the 15m it raised will more than have covered for the 25k casket. It didn't go on a tour of America, it went to a handful of significant places where his friends and family where. I guess that is a way for them to pay respects before laying him to rest. You are looking for nonsense where there isn't any, because you want this to be conspiratorial in some way.

Honestly, you read some internet memes, and throw some conspiracies together but accuse others of being brainwashed by mainstream media. Your kind of easily manipulated mindset are exactly why the world is so messed up.
i don’t know how you dare when you support a movement that wants to ‘abolish’ the F***ing police lol. Even that is based only on half truths and if you dare add some facts in there you’re labelled a racist and in some cases banned from social media. Simply for having a different view. You support that? You say the world is messed up because of ME?
I’ll tell you why it’s messed up, because the looney left are doing stuff like taking a kids dad to court because he wouldn’t let his divorced wife start altering the gender of his 8 YEAR OLD son. That is scary in itself but what is even worse is her case got taken seriously.
How about the people who spent a weekend looting, burning a Wendy’s and shooting dead a 7 year old girl (because her parents didn’t stop for their stupid road block) all over an ‘unarmed’ black man (if you call stealing a cops taser and pointing it at him ‘unarmed’) being shot?
I’m what’s wrong with the world? Do me a favour and get your head in the REAL world mate.
 
i don’t know how you dare when you support a movement that wants to ‘abolish’ the F***ing police lol.
They don't want to abolish the police you clown. "Defund the police" is a slogan to represent that the American government response to crime is to put more money into police, not put money into social systems to address the underlying problems. Putting more money into police has done nothing but end up with the largest prison system in the world, lower the quality of policing, and create distrust of the police.

Putting money into social services, what BLM are fighting for, to address the route cause, is how you stop people becoming criminals. For the record it's what the tories do here, and guess what, crime usually goes up when Tories are in power.

So what you've done is prove that you lack the ability to analyse and understand situations. Instead you misunderstand ideas and slogans, follow headlines and memes that mislead on purpose, and think you bring something of worth to a debate. How precious.

People that hate Black Lives Matter, are at best stupid, at worst racist. Take your pick. BLM is about breaking systematic racism. It's working because the racists are complaining about it.

"the looney left are doing stuff like taking a kids dad to court because he wouldn’t let his divorced wife start altering the gender of his 8 YEAR OLD son" -- and you say you aren't brainwashed. Honestly, I feel for you. The world must be a frightening place for someone so easily provoked by headlines.

The odd 'looney' on the left doesn't make the left looney. The far right has many, many, more looneys, it's the home of the conspiracy theorists, the extremists, the facists, the racists, the violent, the uneducated, those manipulated by patriotism and religion. People with views and a big mouth like you. The alliteration isn't clever, it's the the kind of soundbite that appeals to the young and ill educated.

You clearly think anybody on the left of you lacks any understanding of the 'real world' yet you have no idea about strategic approaches to problems like crime, no idea about pragmatic approaches to problems, no idea about the nature of people, or empathy. You just believe in lots of police to beat the problem out of people, how often has that worked in history? You haven't got the answers to anything, you're an extremist, you are the problem. So which of the ex-members which has previously had a ban for extremism are you? Night ;)
 
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i don’t know how you dare when you support a movement that wants to ‘abolish’ the F***ing police lol. Even that is based only on half truths and if you dare add some facts in there you’re labelled a racist and in some cases banned from social media. Simply for having a different view. You support that? You say the world is messed up because of ME?
I’ll tell you why it’s messed up, because the looney left are doing stuff like taking a kids dad to court because he wouldn’t let his divorced wife start altering the gender of his 8 YEAR OLD son. That is scary in itself but what is even worse is her case got taken seriously.
How about the people who spent a weekend looting, burning a Wendy’s and shooting dead a 7 year old girl (because her parents didn’t stop for their stupid road block) all over an ‘unarmed’ black man (if you call stealing a cops taser and pointing it at him ‘unarmed’) being shot?
I’m what’s wrong with the world? Do me a favour and get your head in the REAL world mate.

What’s the link between the Black Lives Matter protests and a transgender child?
 
I wont believe it until I actually see Trump loading his gold plated tat out of the back door of the white house and into the back door of a transit van .

The media will continue to give him round the clock coverage over any little thing he does or says, so I doubt that this is the end of it yet.
That's my thinking too. I just can't see Trump getting out at all. The rise of the right wing dictator makes me think we are stuck with him for some time.
 
Well JL, your acceptance of the "abolish the police" rubbish adds the cherry to the top of the fruitcake.
Defunding the police means as pointed out above, not creating a permanent Purge-type situation.
I don't suppose you've seen Trump's pledge to "save the suburbs" by abolishing the affordable housing act and preventing those on low incomes from being able to get housing in decent areas where their kids would have a chance of growing up into productive and law abiding citizens. It's blatantly racially biased, just as he's been found out for throughout his property career, and it doesn't do anything to improve America, rather it'll just widen the wealth gap and the divisions that are leading to these oh so radical, anarchist acts of terrorism.
Wanting and creating a better, more equitable society should not be demonised when the current system is in place to make the rich so rich that they are thinking of spending their fortunes to get off the planet rather than trying to save the only effing place we have to live.
 
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