Good to hear some honesty from Gibbo

Hes the very best weve ever had Gibson IMHO, Ive seen us have some great teams over 51 seasons of regular ST attendance.
Ive enjoyed it all for what its worth during the ordinary, lean or successful times prior to Gibson becoming involved.
I remember my time from the late 60s until now fairly well, and seen us come close to promotion, walk the league, be at AP when the so called supporters didnt go and didnt give a toss. I ve been in the poorest of gates in very lean times for the Boro.
Ive then seen the miracle of the phoenix from the fire, local incredible players, emotional times words just cant do justice too.
But to be honest nothing comes close to the times Gibson has given me since he has been involved or overseen with the Boro.
I really dont care where you come from or how long youve been following them tbh, but one thing that irks me is when supporters, dont go to games or just a few (I know its not everyone) but yet want to tell those that back Gibson and are regulars that Gibson should be gone, to add to that they think he is not much short of an idiot and then pay him backhanded compliments(well I dont want him to go BUT!)
Everyone is entitled to an opinion I know, but then they even suggest Im an asrehole for not thinking Gibson should scatter.


I worked away at times Indeedio and during 1 season making 198 mile journey to see midweek games and setting back off at 4 am in the morning for work. Never lived away other than digs and never lived abroad (never wanted too)

If youve been a long time supporter you really do understand what a poor club we were sometimes and
what the club was really like. We always harked back to "If only we had beaten"
I remember the awful attendances the final relegation and little hope of Middlesbrough FC doing anything.

This is despite some fond memories and great times especially a time when life was easy and so many people you loved were still around.

I dont think some will ever understand how regular long time supporters feel, nor will they understand why some have very high regard for a local lad who represents good things about Teesside.

Been really surprised some of the older long time supporters never spoke up for what Gibson had achieved with a small town club.

We all have opinions on players its part of what we enjoy discussing and managers I never grow to fond of them because if you can sack Bruce Rioch you can sack any of them. But Gibson has a list of achievements I only daydreamed about as a Boro fan.

Sorry for the rant, but there ya are.
 
Hes the very best weve ever had Gibson IMHO, Ive seen us have some great teams over 51 seasons of regular ST attendance.
Ive enjoyed it all for what its worth during the ordinary, lean or successful times prior to Gibson becoming involved.
I remember my time from the late 60s until now fairly well, and seen us come close to promotion, walk the league, be at AP when the so called supporters didnt go and didnt give a toss. I ve been in the poorest of gates in very lean times for the Boro.
Ive then seen the miracle of the phoenix from the fire, local incredible players, emotional times words just cant do justice too.
But to be honest nothing comes close to the times Gibson has given me since he has been involved or overseen with the Boro.
I really dont care where you come from or how long youve been following them tbh, but one thing that irks me is when supporters, dont go to games or just a few (I know its not everyone) but yet want to tell those that back Gibson and are regulars that Gibson should be gone, to add to that they think he is not much short of an idiot and then pay him backhanded compliments(well I dont want him to go BUT!)
Everyone is entitled to an opinion I know, but then they even suggest Im an asrehole for not thinking Gibson should scatter.


I worked away at times Indeedio and during 1 season making 198 mile journey to see midweek games and setting back off at 4 am in the morning for work. Never lived away other than digs and never lived abroad (never wanted too)

If youve been a long time supporter you really do understand what a poor club we were sometimes and
what the club was really like. We always harked back to "If only we had beaten"
I remember the awful attendances the final relegation and little hope of Middlesbrough FC doing anything.

This is despite some fond memories and great times especially a time when life was easy and so many people you loved were still around.

I dont think some will ever understand how regular long time supporters feel, nor will they understand why some have very high regard for a local lad who represents good things about Teesside.

Been really surprised some of the older long time supporters never spoke up for what Gibson had achieved with a small town club.

We all have opinions on players its part of what we enjoy discussing and managers I never grow to fond of them because if you can sack Bruce Rioch you can sack any of them. But Gibson has a list of achievements I only daydreamed about as a Boro fan.

Sorry for the rant, but there ya are.

It's not a rant Ticker and you make some points I do really agree with.
I did live away for 13 years or so, but not only had a season ticket, I actually got to virtually every home match and lots of southern away ones too.
I saw all the home matches in Lennie's last season before Robbo came, with under 10k on many occasions. I had a 550 mile round trip for each match.
I'm no more or less dedicated than you, or a number of others.
You're not better than me because you continued to live in Boro.
It doesn't mean we have to view things the same way.
Middlesbrough FC is not just about the town of Middlesbrough and I think that's what a few really believe.
Middlesbrough is not a massive town, it is actually similar to Blackburn with Darwen.
But it has another bigger town right next to it in Stockton and others around it too, for whom Boro is their club.
Middlesbrough have not done amazingly well for the size of connurbation, (well over 500k people). The average attendance puts us 16th across all seasons and just 5k behind the "mighty Sunderland".
Our all time league ranking I think is 17th or 18th.
We've done ok. Even in Gibson's time we've done ok with a couple of highlights.
We are not small time.
You hate people unfairly criticising Gibson and I get that.
I hate people making out we are so small and that without Gibson we are just a little town.
Middlesbrough FC is bigger than "the town". Much bigger.
 
Fair enough Indeeido, I wasn't having a go at you..you make some good points
I just get sick of the doom and gloom merchants that want everyone OUT !
Even more so if you happen to have played for the club and come from the area.
Some are even calling for Bauser's head on another thread.
It's just pathetic.
I did find your claim that youngsters wouldn't look up to Woodgate as he is a 'failure' utterly ridiculous however !
I don't like unfair criticism, or moaning for the sake of it either.
Right now I'm really upbeat, despite maintaining the last 4 years have been a disaster.
We have a really good bloke as manager who is going to break up this awful squad and build his own. He has a tremendous track record of doing just what we need.
I am optimistic about our chances and think we really could gate crash the playoffs and win them.
We've even got a return to our iconic home shirt (shorts too hopefully).

We disagree re Woodgate and guess we always will. That is fine.
I don't think young players just look at where their coach has or hasn't played. They will also see what he is like.
He was a failure as manager and coach here. He is also in my personal experience a really unimpressive and unlikeable individual. I'd be genuinely stunned if many people were impressed by exposure to Woodgate.
There is no aura of greatness, he is just vacuous.

We shouldn't really be arguing as we have far far more in common in our views than we have difference.
 
Whilst I agree with those above who have suggested we shouldn't be rewarding failure surely the decision is Warnocks now? If he thinks Woodgate is the best candidate for whichever role he's being suggested for (and more likely, we can't get better for the money available) he'll give him the job?

I think my issue is (and always has been) that some of those decisions at Middlesbrough FC seem to be taken out of the hands of the manager, pre-ordained or persuaded to do otherwise. That is wrong in my opinion.
 
Were going to chat at the end of the season. Talks were happening before the end of the season. (Warnocks position) jonathans doing a great job. Its probably the worst its been( woodgate tho i think he alludes to monks time n signings) just ask for honesty really. Consitantly. But i wouldnt swap the bloke. Utb ps bring back the full hoop please
 
We've done ok. Even in Gibson's time we've done ok with a couple of highlights.
We are not small time.
Those "couple of highlights" include winning our first and only piece of major silverware, reaching Europa Cup final, twice qualifying for Europe and 11 consecutive seasons in Prem.
 
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