Supreme Court ruling on Scot ref - Scottish govt does NOT have right to hold another referendum

As I've said, I disagree with the way you're playing with timescales.

But as a general answer - yeah sure. If it was comparable. I.e. governments kept being elected, with big thumping majorities, with EU referendums in their manifestos. Why would anyone arbitrarily set a time limit on how often something like a referendum can happen, irrespective of whatever else is happening in the world?

I asked a few messages ago how long you think Scotland should have to wait before they're allowed another vote. What are you saying? Not 9 years isn't much of an answer. 20 years? 100 years? 1000 years?
I don't know. 50 years. 100 years. Not ten. Just because you disagree with someone you cant just ignore the result of a vote. Otherwise you're no better than trump and his supporters. The b***ks up is having a referendum without specifying the time period. Imagine having a general election when they don't specify when the next one should be.

I mean what if they had one and did leave. Would there be another referendum 10 years after that to rejoin? Every ten years you decide which country you are going to belong to?

I also don't believe for a second that any remainder would not be screaming bloody blue murder had they won the poll, and found another referendum on membership a few years down the line. Don't believe it for a second.
 
Quebec has had two democratic referendums to separate from Canada , both returned no .

You sure they didn’t mean Kosovo ? F***ing ridiculous they’re comparing themselves anyway to them
No both were cited by the judge in his summary.
 
Sturgeon nothing like trump hmm

  • A series of pro-independence rallies are due to be held in towns and cities across Scotland this evening
 
The Scottish Government stated in its white paper for independence that voting Yes was a "once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation".

Once a decade isn't "once in a generation". They've also been calling for the next one in that entire decade.
 
I don't know. 50 years. 100 years.

Yowza. Have to save that gives me a similar reaction to what you mentioned earlier...

Scotland could leave and rejoin the UK 7 or 8 times in a lifetime under your timescale. That to me seems pretty daft.

So under your timescale Scotland not voting for indepence in 2014 means even people not born yet shoups never get the opportunity to decide what arrangement they want for their country? That seems very harsh to me. At that point you'd really have to admit they don't have self determination.
 
Sturgeon nothing like trump hmm

  • A series of pro-independence rallies are due to be held in towns and cities across Scotland this evening

What are you saying here though? Anyone who ever joins any protest is like Trump? The lads that did that love boro hate racism march a few years ago were like Trump because they were outdoors in a town?
 
The Scottish Government stated in its white paper for independence that voting Yes was a "once in a generation opportunity to follow a different path, and choose a new and better direction for our nation".

Once a decade isn't "once in a generation". They've also been calling for the next one in that entire decade.
There's no time limit on referenda, regardless of what any white paper said.
 
What are you saying here though? Anyone who ever joins any protest is like Trump? The lads that did that love boro hate racism march a few years ago were like Trump because they were outdoors in a town?
No I’m saying it’s about pushing the false mantra despite the reality.

England have said no is the spin which as said isn’t the case the uk said no.
 
Yowza. Have to save that gives me a similar reaction to what you mentioned earlier...



So under your timescale Scotland not voting for indepence in 2014 means even people not born yet shoups never get the opportunity to decide what arrangement they want for their country? That seems very harsh to me. At that point you'd really have to admit they don't have self determination.
I have never had the opportunity to decide whether England is part of the union. Neither have the Scots for hundreds of years. Shall we all just fracture off into miniature kingdoms? Have votes every ten years to decide which country we should be part of.

Far far far too much time was wasted on the nonsense of Brexit. Let's not have more nonsense.
 
Absolutely appalling decision.

Whichever way you think it should ultimately go, this can no longer be considered a union if one party to that union needs the permission of another party to consider leaving.
Absolutely, it's a forced union. If it's worth maintaining there should be no fear of a referendum result
 
Absolutely appalling decision.

Whichever way you think it should ultimately go, this can no longer be considered a union if one party to that union needs the permission of another party to consider leaving.
Scotland voted to remain though the nation decided one referendum was held snd results showed demand to stay.

Anything else is supposition.
 
Scotland voted to remain though the nation decided one referendum was held snd results showed demand to stay.

Anything else is supposition.
People can change their minds.

Using your logic we could never have voted to leave the EU because we had previously voted to join it.
 
Doesn't make it right.

Doesn't stop it being a union either.

Since 2014 and before, by and large, the majority of Scottish people have opposed independence.

The majority opposed a referendum next year too.

More people voted for parties that opposed independence than supported it in the 2021 Scottish election.
 
Doesn't stop it being a union either.

Since 2014 and before, by and large, the majority of Scottish people have opposed independence.

The majority opposed a referendum next year too.

More people voted for parties that opposed independence than supported it in the 2021 Scottish election.
Then why the fear of a referendum?
 
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