"The Brexit Effect: How leaving the EU hit the UK." Financial Times. [V-28:24]

Some of my relatives are EU Nationals and they were able to vote in the Referendum as they were permanent residents and tax payers in the UK. - where has the information come from they could not vote in 2016?

If people want to rejoin the EU why don't they persudae the main political parties to make it a major policy, and if they ignore them form their own political party say UK(in)EU Party. Come the next General Election probably in 2024 or 2025 they should do well, if the people in the video are right with their predictions of major economic decline in relative terms.
Some of my relatives are EU Nationals and they were able to vote in the Referendum as they were permanent residents and tax payers in the UK. - where has the information come from they could not vote in 2016?
From here
 
I gave you the courtesy of an answer.
You now seem to confuse me with somebody who gives a flying **** about whether you deem my reasons for voting leave are allowable.
You epitomise the thick little englanger that we should apologise for whilst your inability to understand what the EU brought the Uk on so many levels is lost on your limited thinking ‘brain’
I don’t want or need a response from you - block me if you want you fcuking village idiot. Shame your parents weren’t able (like so many to be fair) to nurture critical thinking…ah well.
 
There`s several more of those mini-reports, starting with the Haulage Industry, the Fishing Industry and the Cost to Social Care of the elderly and disabled.
I`l keep them for those long winter evenings when we arent playing
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You epitomise the thick little englanger that we should apologise for whilst your inability to understand what the EU brought the Uk on so many levels is lost on your limited thinking ‘brain’
I don’t want or need a response from you - block me if you want you fcuking village idiot. Shame your parents weren’t able (like so many to be fair) to nurture critical thinking…ah well.
So says the poster who spouts more rubbish than virtually any other and is ridiculed by virtually everybody, every day.
You can't even get your insults out properly "englanger".
It is not me that should be blocking you, it is admin.
 
You epitomise the thick little englanger that we should apologise for whilst your inability to understand what the EU brought the Uk on so many levels is lost on your limited thinking ‘brain’
I don’t want or need a response from you - block me if you want you fcuking village idiot. Shame your parents weren’t able (like so many to be fair) to nurture critical thinking…ah well.
Awful response. And exactly why such a divisive ‘debate’ ended the way it did.
 
Listen, I've been through this loads of times with lots of other posters, for years.
In short I fiercely objected to the one way journey through Maastricht and Lisbon towards a United States of Europe.
There are so many reasons why different people voted to leave.
For me it was never about immigration, never about a mis-guided economic opportunity, never about chasing past glories.
I simply did not want to be sucked into an ever concentrated and centralised Europe I simply don't identify with. Not everything has to be economically driven.

You sound like a sensible chap. You did realise we had a veto and could have stopped all of that if we were in the EU instead of leaving and making ourselves poorer?
 
You epitomise the thick little englanger that we should apologise for whilst your inability to understand what the EU brought the Uk on so many levels is lost on your limited thinking ‘brain’
I don’t want or need a response from you - block me if you want you fcuking village idiot. Shame your parents weren’t able (like so many to be fair) to nurture critical thinking…ah well.


FFS 🤦🏻🤦🏻
 
You sound like a sensible chap. You did realise we had a veto and could have stopped all of that if we were in the EU instead of leaving and making ourselves poorer?
I’m not sure he does. Brexitists have fallen for a mountain of lies I’d be surprised if they know where they got their opinions from. Probably thinks there’ll be an EU army and Türkiye will join!
 
Some of my relatives are EU Nationals and they were able to vote in the Referendum as they were permanent residents and tax payers in the UK. - where has the information come from they could not vote in 2016?
From here
As said I can only say what actually happened and they were able to vote. They are on the electrol roll etc. Maybe there was a cut off point if they have been resident for say 10 years or if they marry.

When does some stop becoming a EU citizen and is known as a UK citizen instead? I don't know.
 
Thanks for posting and an interesting if unsurprising watch, from an economic perspective.

The Brexit we have is not what I voted for, nor I suspect the majority of Leave voters. As an economics graduate who focused on economic integration, I fully understood there was never an economic argument for leaving.
The "slow puncture" referred to in the video was always going to slow us down and frankly could have been much worse, but tyres can be repaired or replaced.
This country will return to the SM and CU, be tied economically, but not rejoin the EU.
And many will then have got what they actually voted for.
Couldn't agree more and the Conservative party will go into permanent decline and have to reintegrate real Conservative politicians like Rory Stewart. As much as I'm struggling financially it's not all about money (to me anyway).
 
Blue passports and crown marks on pint glasses? And no brown people? And all poorer. Great stuff!
Here we go again, w* nkers deciding that's all people voted for. It's extremely disrespectful branding people racists for leaving the EU. People have many different reasons. I could just presume you voted remain because your a greedy money loving ch unt!
 
The video is useful for highlighting the non-tariff barriers that currently exist when trading with countires within the EU/SEM.

This aspect did surprise me a bit, but I can see now how it has developed, when one member says I am leaving the EU organisation and the rest then say OK, but it will not be easy for you when you leave. Its human nature not to be helpful when you have been spurned and you spurn back.

As said before the way forward for me is to have a formal relationship within the SEM. Where in effect you are associate member opposed to the current non member which is more the deal negotiated by the Conservative Party after the 2016 Vote.
 
The video is useful for highlighting the non-tariff barriers that currently exist when trading with countires within the EU/SEM.

This aspect did surprise me a bit, but I can see now how it has developed, when one member says I am leaving the EU organisation and the rest then say OK, but it will not be easy for you when you leave. Its human nature not to be helpful when you have been spurned and you spurn back.

As said before the way forward for me is to have a formal relationship within the SEM. Where in effect you are associate member opposed to the current non member which is more the deal negotiated by the Conservative Party after the 2016 Vote.
Was being a rule taker and not a rule maker what people voted for ?
 
This aspect did surprise me a bit, but I can see now how it has developed, when one member says I am leaving the EU organisation and the rest then say OK, but it will not be easy for you when you leave. Its human nature not to be helpful when you have been spurned and you spurn back.
Here we go again with the 'EU is punishing the UK' spiel as if they are estranged lovers.

The EU countries are simply not granting to the UK the privileges of being in the EU. Privileges that are founded on the mutual agreements between the member nations of the EU. The EU also does not grant said privileges to any other countries who are not EU members.

Why do so many people think they should still be able to watch Netflix after cancelling their subscription?
 
Here we go again, w* nkers deciding that's all people voted for. It's extremely disrespectful branding people racists for leaving the EU. People have many different reasons. I could just presume you voted remain because your a greedy money loving ch unt!
It was overwhelming the reason though. Immigration was at the heart of the vote. The insanity that restricting FoM was a good thing.

Interesting your last line though: you think it “greedy” to not want the country to isolate itself and ruin its own economy. Really?
 
It is not flawed at all, you just don't agree, which is of course your right.

I don't agree because I don't think you followed a rigorous enough process to arrive at your decision.

You had an opinion on the current state of the European Union as at 2016. How did you arrive at that, what sources did you use?
 
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