Honestly this is just so stupid I don't know what to say to it. This is what I mean by cultists. You get people like Andy arguing for actual absurdisms.
It's 2022. Yes the pandemic was big news but it doesn't mean that anything said just two years when the pandemic was happening anyway suddenly is as irrelevent as a century ago. It's obviously, obviously, obviously not.
Re-read my post about energy policy. We've been over this before and you simply don't have an answer for it. The crisis of the capitalist model is more reason to change, not less. You can't invoke that a reason we suddenly all need to want tory economics ad infitum.
Jesus, you took my 1922 comment literally? Wow
Cultist? I voted for Corbyn, and will vote for Starmer, and I'm not the one shooting down the labour leader at any opportunity. Hard to be classed as a cultist, when you're in all the cults.
Yes, comparing to 1922 is ludicrous, as is going absolutely bananas thinking nothing has changed and that the priorities of early 2020 are anywhere near the priorities of 2022-2025, never mind 2025-2030. I never said they were not important, and of course they still are (especially to me), but they won't be the headline grabbers that Labour will need to win power, and retain it.
The pandemic, coupled with everything else and Labour are going to inherit one of the biggest black holes ever known. It's not going to be possible to go all guns blazing, the books will have to be balanced, and to a point where it doesn't risk a loss in 2030, or the deck gets stacked against the worse off even more. Labour are going to need 10 years in power to make a significant dent in a lot of the UK's problems.
Like I said, just because the pledges were removed, does not mean those ideas are completely forgotten about, trying to insinuate so is a poor straw man argument. Labours alternatives will be better than the Tory alternative to those, to think this would not be the case, for the 2025 manifesto is ludicrous. You can point out these when the manifesto's come out if you like?
Which was your post on Energy policy? I don't think nationalising now is a good idea, but like I said I'm happy for that long term, and hopefully Labour will be too long term. Labour seem to be interested in creating a nationalised company for new energy generation, which is the right way to go, I think.
But no matter what they chose to do regarding energy policy, I'll likely not be that bothered as it's not a priority at the minute (in so much as there's nothing we can do to drop prices at the minute) and will be a lesser priority when prices drop. I wouldn't really want to create an energy policy now for the next term), I'd be looking at what the situation is in 2024 and the forecast for 2025-2035 before doing that. If the Tories seem to be doing something silly (like banning onshore wind), then go after that, like Starmer has done.
No matter what happens any policy which is going to be implemented is going to be greener, and likely involve more wind and some sort of energy storage, as that's our main viable option at the minute.
