Traore

Anton_Berg said:
Whether he was 'raw' or not, his trademark deep cross from the goal-line is something he did repeatedly for us except that there was never anyone on the end of one to make it count as an assist.
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agreed, should have just played him behind Negredo with no defensive responsibility, and told him to go play and enjoy.
 
I thought he was a dud.

How many goals has he scored since leaving the Boro.

Sas if you are still about ignore the hindsight experts.
 
NYboro said:
I don't think we saw anything like the best of him - his decision making and end product were poor. He has improved immensely at Wolves.
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Oh dear not that 'end product' blah blah. Must have been said thousands of times whilst he was with us. Its like being presented with a Ferrari and complaining about the air in the tyres.
Im not saying he hasn't got even better but thats just the natural way footballers progress with age. Im sure he will get even better when hes 27/28. We had a great footballer and the criticism on this board was ignorant and shameful and even maybe in a very small way influential on him leaving.

Although the biggest factors were probably Monk and Karanka not playing him.
 
He was very much maturing at 21 he was very raw and didn't always deserve to start games in the Premiership under AK, but often came on as sub. He should have started games as a wide player in the Championship and did under Pulis.
 
TheBoroBuzzard said:
Absolute game changer yesterday, was looking like a stalemate till he came on the pitch...any truth in the rumours that he is eligible for an England call up based on his length of time in this country, and not playing for an international country yet 😮😮
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No, absolutely no truth whatsoever. I don't understand why people keep trotting out this old chestnut about players being eligible to play for a country simply based on living there long enough and ignoring the overarching, primary requirement - that of holding the nationality of the country you represent. Traore isn't British so he isn't eligible.

In addition, in the case of the UK there is an agreement among all the home nations (and ratified by FIFA) that they will not try to call up a player with no ancestral ties to the UK, even if they did take UK citizenship (which Traore hasn't).

One thing to bear in mind is that there's no such thing as English nationality. So if a player who'd lived in the UK long enough did take on UK citizenship, they wouldn't just be theoretically eligible to play for England under the basic FIFA eligibility criteria, they'd be eligible to play for any of the four home nations. So how would they decide who gets to call them up?

I'm not sure, but I imagine that's one of the reasons they came up with the whole "Home Nations Agreement" in the first place, to avoid the kind of bun fight that might ensue.
 
HundredRoom said:
Oh dear not that 'end product' blah blah. Must have been said thousands of times whilst he was with us. Its like being presented with a Ferrari and complaining about the air in the tyres.
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I'm glad you think the finished product is someone who skins everyone at 100 miles an hour and then blasts the ball into the stand or over the far touchline.
 
Liamo said:
In addition, in the case of the UK there is an agreement among all the home nations (and ratified by FIFA) that they will not try to call up a player with no ancestral ties to the UK, even if they did take UK citizenship (which Traore hasn't).
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That's not true.
If it was, players like Sterling or Zaha wouldn't have been called up for England.

It's that a home nation won't try to call up a player who doesn't have ancestral ties and hasn't lived in that home nation for the required number of years.

They've still got to pick up British nationality though, and I doubt Traore would want to.
 
His potential was always immense. But to claim he hasn't improved a lot is ridiculous. He's talked about it himself. Things like learning to slow down a bit. Credit it to him, he's now getting the most out of his phenomenal natural talent.

Those claiming that he was always this good are the sort of people who think the best player at 5 a side is the person who never passes it and ends up running into blind corners. Dribbling is a great ability and gets you off your seat. But you need to learn when to do it to cause the most damage. He has that now. He didn't when he first came.

That said he should definitely have played in the prem. We were bereft of pace and he was still a good player (he's now a great one). He terrified teams. He's the sort of player you cut some slack because the positives far outweigh the negatives. But that I think that rubbed up against Karanka's method. He wanted every player following the same script.
 
NYboro said:
I'm glad you think the finished product is someone who skins everyone at 100 miles an hour and then blasts the ball into the stand or over the far touchline.
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Well if that's what you saw then that's what you saw. Some of us saw much much more.
 
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