Well, I hope you have to eat your words mate! One thing’s for sure, expectations would never have been lower. Hopefully he gives an absolute car crash of a first presser too and wins no one over for “speaking well”, such that any points on the board at all are seen as a bonus and cause for celebration and rejoicing.
Wilder wanted: Kal Naismith, Dwight Gayle & David McGoldrick
Even if Wilder didn’t get the players he wanted, we shouldn’t have been anywhere near relegation if he is as good a manager as is often thought. It will be interesting to see how he does in his next job. Not that many managers manage to get their mojo back once their stock has fallen.
I would love to be wrong but I don’t see it. What qualifications does he have for the job other than he used to play for us? If Gibson actually makes this mistake for a third time after Southgate and Woodgate it honestly feels pointless bothering with the club because we all know by now exactly how these things end up
Agree 100% for all his trash talk.. he didn’t come up with the goods.
Lots of managers start without many qualifications, especially in the lower leagues, an owner just fancies them and takes a punt. Of course it might not work out, I’m just not going to say it definitely won’t.
Sorry, the facts on the ground are the same as facts presented in graphics.
Managers like that would start in the lower leagues unless they had a top playing career and worked under the best managers. Cattermole has none of that and barely has any coaching experience, not even sure if he has his badges yet.
Do one for their second season
Well, the first thing to try and bear in mind is we are clearly looking for a coach, not a manager. Maybe we’ve redefined the roles and learnt from the Woodgate mess? Maybe Woody would have been a massive success if we’d had Scott here at that point? It’s all ifs and buts and to a degree I’m just playing devil’s advocate here, but if LC does get the job he’ll get my full support as long as he keeps us out of the relegation zone and shows some sign of progress.
the starts are near identical as shown.. the comparisons for the 2nd season are in the WLD bit
I don’t think we have moved forward from Woodgate, is this squad any better than he had? Still making the same mistakes at every level
Well we have an entirely new structure. As I say, who knows if that will make a difference, but it’s not impossible.
Shocked the stats were that close personally, the actual football played and how much we improved as a club and individuals are worlds apart. Those two seasons under Karanka and this years cup run are the only enjoyable seasons in the last 15 years. Shame we didn’t capitalise on any of it
He knows the academy players, he’s worked with Middlesbrough staff, from the training photos it looks like he has a good relationship with the players. and he has a huge amount of experience leading players in difficult circumstances. I don’t think any of the other candidates have that.Lots of managers start without many qualifications, especially in the lower leagues, an owner just fancies them and takes a punt. Of course it might not work out, I’m just not going to say it definitely won’t.
I have to say though it doesn’t feel quite like the Southgate or Woodgate appointments. This feels like it may be based on something more specific to this particular situation. Sure, people might say it’s Gibson and/or Scott wanting a puppet, but you could almost argue that that’s more likely to bring about a togetherness the club would never have if the board was constantly at loggerheads with the manager (which was probably the case with Karanka, Monk, Warnock and Wilder).
One other major difference between Woody and Cattermole. Cattermole never wanted to leave as a player. Woody couldn’t wait to get away as soon as mid-table Tottenham calling, not 6 months after signing a 4 year deal. I’m not saying that’s significant necessarily. Plus, Cattermole went to my school and if I’m anything to go off, what could possibly go wrong?
Very telling when you put it like that.
