Brian Clough or Jack Charlton?

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Redlips

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We all know what Jack achieve at the Boro, he assembled some team.

If both managers are available at their peak, and both are willing to come to Boro, who would you pick?

I am in the Cloughie corner!
 
Clough was nothing special with Taylor.

When Clough was without Taylor he struggled at Leeds and after 1982 @ Forest was ordinary.
 
I doubt Clough would ever have considered managing us? I certainly wouldn't swap Jack for him, though I'd have liked Jack to be a bit more adventurous when he had the chance.
 
It's got to be Clough, surely.

There's no guarantee lightning would strike a third time, but he took two separate provincial teams up and won the title with them, he'd be immortal if he did the same with us.

There'd be nothing better than having a Middlesbrough born manager leading Middlesbrough to its first title.

Charlton did a brilliant job with us, and is one of our best ever managers, but he achieved nothing close to Clough.
 
I remember Brian Clough had his own column in the Daily Star and at the start of one season he wrote how he wished Sunderland the best because their fans are the closest to his heart.When we were deep in the crap Big Jack came back to help us out.So its Jack Charlton everytime for me,its not what he could of done its what he did do.
 
asredastheycome said:
Clough possibly greatest manager there has ever been. What he achieved with Derby and Forest is incredible. None of your bag loads of foreign investment in those days. Never be repeated. Game is too tired up on favour of the so called big six now.

Still love Big Jack though our best manager for me.
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asred, 100% agree with all that 👍
 
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For me Brian Clough has proven the best ever manager but big Jack everyday of the week

48 years later from that awesome, unbelievable season & big Jack & his best ever Boro team are remembered so fondly
 
Both legends and larger than life characters and we should be very proud that those great football men are associated with our club.

On results it would have to be the genius that was Clough all day long but sometimes the connection with a club and affinity with the fans can override that to an extent, Charlton always spoke very fondly of his time at the Boro whereas Clough had nothing good to say about the club, which is a shame, and once he settled in the Midlands I don't think he gave the North East a backwards glance.

When you know how close we came to appointing Bill Shankly when he was manager at Grimsby and how highly he spoke of our fan base and the potential within the club, he always said not hearing back from us after agreeing to join was the biggest disappointment of his managerial career.
 
American_Mary said:
Both legends and larger than life characters and we should be very proud that those great football men are associated with our club.

On results it would have to be the genius that was Clough all day long but sometimes the connection with a club and affinity with the fans can override that to an extent, Charlton always spoke very fondly of his time at the Boro whereas Clough had nothing good to say about the club, which is a shame, and once he settled in the Midlands I don't think he gave the North East a backwards glance.

When you know how close we came to appointing Bill Shankly when he was manager at Grimsby and how highly he spoke of our fan base and the potential within the club, he always said not hearing back from us after agreeing to join was the biggest disappointment of his managerial career.
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As usual American lady, a very good, well balanced read 👍
 
American_Mary said:
Both legends and larger than life characters and we should be very proud that those great football men are associated with our club.

On results it would have to be the genius that was Clough all day long but sometimes the connection with a club and affinity with the fans can override that to an extent, Charlton always spoke very fondly of his time at the Boro whereas Clough had nothing good to say about the club, which is a shame, and once he settled in the Midlands I don't think he gave the North East a backwards glance.

When you know how close we came to appointing Bill Shankly when he was manager at Grimsby and how highly he spoke of our fan base and the potential within the club, he always said not hearing back from us after agreeing to join was the biggest disappointment of his managerial career.
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I wasn’t aware of the Bill Shankly ‘snub’, interesting reading that.

In fairness to Clough there had been a bit of fiddling going on at the Boro when he was banging in the goals, he deserved a promotion and maybe there was lingering bitterness that he had been denied more England caps by the way the club was run. And let’s be honest even under Big Jack it seemed a bit small time and amateur behind the scenes.

Clough spent very big in his day at Derby and Forest to pull in the trophies, it wasn’t just done by turning the likes of John McGovern into an unlikely superstar. If he had Charlton’s team he would have wanted to break the bank to sign a top striker - do you think he would have been given the backing?
 
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