Labour making steps towards a Progressive Alliance?

I am struggling to think of any rural Labour seats - Whitby and Scarboro was during the Blair years.
 
The Tories are whingeing about a so called pact and claiming its unfair and undemocratic.

They also ignore the fact the Tories and the Brexit Party had a pact in 2019.
 
What is progressive about the current incarnation of the Labour Party exactly?

Their recent campaign ads against the Lib Dems and the Greens should be a red flag.
 
I wonder if the Conservatives have made a mistake holding both by-elections on the same day.

Two to defend, which means split resources unless they have given one up. Maybe they hadn't expected Labour to step back on one.
 
Thorntree_UTB said:
What is progressive about the current incarnation of the Labour Party exactly?

Their recent campaign ads against the Lib Dems and the Greens should be a red flag.
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Any "alliance" won't be anything other than one party standing down in constituencies where they have no chance of winning as to not split the vote.

They will all be rivals for any other seat and will probably deny any existence of a pact, especially if Labour continues to poll as the largest party.
 
Lefty said:
I wonder if the Conservatives have made a mistake holding both by-elections on the same day.

Two to defend, which means split resources unless they have given one up. Maybe they hadn't expected Labour to step back on one.
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Gets the bad* news over with in 1 day though doesn't it? 12 years in to a government, with things as bad as they are, they'll be expecting to lose both heavily.

*from their perspective.
 
SuperStu said:
Gets the bad* news over with in 1 day though doesn't it? 12 years in to a government, with things as bad as they are, they'll be expecting to lose both heavily.

*from their perspective.
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Yes, I suppose that is true. I expect they will focus more resources on Wakefield. They can dismiss the Lib-Dems winning under those terms more. Much better for Johnson to hang on to a Red Wall seat if he can. Plus Labour appear not to be united in this constituency.
 
Corbyn's Labour and the Greens, now that may have been progressive.

Starmer and the Lib Dems combo is anti Tory but I can't see much progression there. Very much in the Blair mould of patching up but nothing to halt the slide dramatically.
 
Lefty said:
Plus Labour appear not to be united in this constituency
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All just part of Starmer's general aim of removing members and internal democracy from the party. I'm sure the agitation his office have cause with the candidate selection is priced in. They'll be confident of winning the seat regardless.
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Corbyn's Labour and the Greens, now that may have been progressive.

Starmer and the Lib Dems combo is anti Tory but I can't see much progression there. Very much in the Blair mould of patching up but nothing to halt the slide dramatically.
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Interesting viewpoint but you have to get into power to do anything progressive, Corbyn did have his chance.
 
Any coincidence in the fact that they're proposing to hold the Wakefield by-election on 23rd June (anniversary of Brexit referendum)?
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
Starmer and the Lib Dems combo is anti Tory but I can't see much progression there.
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I disagree on that. My hope for the next GE is that we end up with a Lib/Lab/Green Anti Tory Alliance with electoral reform as a core policy. If we move to full Proportional Representation the Tories will NEVER have power in this country again.

That is a dream worth progressing to.
 
Muttley said:
I disagree on that. My hope for the next GE is that we end up with a Lib/Lab/Green Anti Tory Alliance with electoral reform as a core policy. If we move to full Proportional Representation the Tories will NEVER have power in this country again.

That is a dream worth progressing to.
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I agree with you, however I just do not see PR happening. Neither the Tories or Labour would vote for it as both would lose seats to the Greens, Lib Dems and even some to a far right party.
 
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