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Johngannonsunderpants said:
The one I looked at said range 170 miles or so. Top gear test did something like 88 miles with everything turned off.
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That's really really low end. On a freezing cold day, driving at 70 MPH I'd expect that from the worst E mini.

Still it's a city car and I don't know many cities that have 80 miles of 70 MPH roads so it has no real world relevance. Also city range, on a mild day, is 170 miles. Which is probably more than enough to get you to Tescos and back!
 
SmallTown said:
Was it? The equivalent performance and spec?

Good suggestion of car though. It helps prove my theory on rang anxiety. BMW know this and deliberately built a car with a smaller range than they could. Making it have a smaller and lighter battery. Which in turn means lighter weight so better handling and efficiency and quicker charging times.
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It was the entry level of both versions I think when I looked.

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£18.8k OTR

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'from' £27k

Although it was a level 2 I was after, which is from £29k.
 
Caesium137 said:
It was the entry level of both versions I think when I looked.

MINI 3-Door Hatch Configurator - Build & Personalise Your MINI

Create your perfect MINI 3-Door Hatch in three simple steps. Choose your engine performance, configure a style. then customise and personalise it to suit you.
www.mini.co.uk www.mini.co.uk

£18.8k OTR

www.mini.co.uk

MINI Electric Configurator - Build & Personalise Your MINI

Create your perfect MINI Electric. Simply choose your style then customise and personalise it to suit you.
www.mini.co.uk www.mini.co.uk

'from' £27k

Although it was a level 2 I was after, which is from £29k.
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I don't think they are the same performance wise. I may be wrong but I think the EV is a more powerful version. Not checked the spec levels
 
As V6 and V8s have been mentioned here: the last car company I would ever though of to start going green. Both from a resource and ethos point of view I didn't expect these guys to be looking at EV

TVR

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SmallTown said:
Servicing costs cheaper
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Is this actually true? I have an EV but I get everything included in my lease so never even considered the cost. I know it should technically be cheaper because there is less to do but is it not the case that you have no choice but to go to the manufacturer for servicing because your local garage won't have the expertise and then they charge you top whack anyway? I can see maintenance costs over the long term being cheaper because there are fewer parts to go wrong but the annual servicing seems like something they'll be charging the same price for whether it is an EV or an ICE.
 
Nano said:
Is this actually true? I have an EV but I get everything included in my lease so never even considered the cost. I know it should technically be cheaper because there is less to do but is it not the case that you have no choice but to go to the manufacturer for servicing because your local garage won't have the expertise and then they charge you top whack anyway? I can see maintenance costs over the long term being cheaper because there are fewer parts to go wrong but the annual servicing seems like something they'll be charging the same price for whether it is an EV or an ICE.
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Yes it's true. Due to the drive train EV have much longer service intervals than ICE. Also cheaper servicing costs due to the simplicity of the motors compared to ICE
 
SmallTown said:
Ah the battery replacement line! And using a none EV as an example. Shame
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Shame you seemingly think the cost is not an issue on some vehicles or checking is important. I do
Shame you put your belittling tone to to the post, yep real shame.
Shame for the owner of that hybrid he didn’t check. If he had, he may have opted for a different vehicle.

Toodle Pip
 
coluka said:
Shame you seemingly think the cost is not an issue on some vehicles or checking is important. I do
Shame you put your belittling tone to to the post, yep real shame.
Shame for the owner of that hybrid he didn’t check. If he had, he may have opted for a different vehicle.

Toodle Pip
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Love that last comment! Shows this is nothing about EV and more about you getting upset at certain personalities. Shame again that some people have to stoop that low.

Point one: That's patently untrue. I dislike it when people make up lies about what I think, especially when the lie is disproven on this thread.

Point 2: Fine

point 3: It's still a petrol engine vehicle.
 
SmallTown said:
I don't think they are the same performance wise. I may be wrong but I think the EV is a more powerful version. Not checked the spec levels
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It is, but like I said, they are the two entry level options. It is the base model in each range.
 
SmallTown said:
Agreed. But you're comparing apples to oranges.

Faster and more powerful cars are always more expensive.
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I get what you are saying, but I was looking at the two cheapest models in the range for cost, not performance. Those are the only two entry level models I can choose.

The Cooper and Cooper S ICE models are somewhere around £7k and £6k cheaper than the electric though, so more comparing apples for apples?

The Cooper is similar in performance to the electric but with much higher top end (not much of an issue in a town car). The Cooper S out performs it in all departments. Obviously the Cooper & Cooper S have all the fancier bits and bobs you would have to move up to a level 2 or 3 in the electric to get.
 
Caesium137 said:
I get what you are saying, but I was looking at the two cheapest models in the range for cost, not performance. Those are the only two entry level models I can choose.

The Cooper and Cooper S ICE models are somewhere around £7k and £6k cheaper than the electric though, so more comparing apples for apples?

The Cooper is similar in performance to the electric but with much higher top end (not much of an issue in a town car). The Cooper S out performs it in all departments. Obviously the Cooper & Cooper S have all the fancier bits and bobs you would have to move up to a level 2 or 3 in the electric to get.
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Yeah I would say the cooper looks the closest equivalent. That's quite a price gap isn't it. That's not good at all. I get the feeling some manufacturers aren't quite as serious about EV as they should be. Those with a red dot in their flag definitely and solidly aren't (Despite one of them producing the best "everyman" EV currently out there) and the Germans are just pretending. Merc are the same: EQA and EQC are just Rehashed GLA and GLC sold for a higher price.
 
SmallTown said:
Yeah I would say the cooper looks the closest equivalent. That's quite a price gap isn't it. That's not good at all. I get the feeling some manufacturers aren't quite as serious about EV as they should be. Those with a red dot in their flag definitely and solidly aren't (Despite one of them producing the best "everyman" EV currently out there) and the Germans are just pretending. Merc are the same: EQA and EQC are just Rehashed GLA and GLC sold for a higher price.
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When I looked the EV still had the government grant discount thing on them too (is it still running?). I presume they'll come down eventually.

It was a second car for an intown runabout for me. I'll hang on till I change the 'big un' in a couple of years before going EV.

I desperately want a Cyber Truck!
 
Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
A good way to save £600 a year is going out and spending £8000 more for a similar model?
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It's weird this isn't it, even though I agree with you, there's still a massive exaggeration in your post. The £6000 difference has magically increased in value by a third.

I think this is where my frustration with the Anti EV gang kicks in. Even when you're correct for some reason there has to be a lie or exaggeration to "prove" it.

Bottom line is: Unless you're getting a 2nd leaf then purchase price is a barrier. I know that. Hopefully this will come down and you should weigh it against TCO savings. Not just fuel, which is significant, but servicing and tax and maintenance too.
 
SmallTown said:
It's weird this isn't it, even though I agree with you, there's still a massive exaggeration in your post. The £6000 difference has magically increased in value by a third.

I think this is where my frustration with the Anti EV gang kicks in. Even when you're correct for some reason there has to be a lie or exaggeration to "prove" it.

Bottom line is: Unless you're getting a 2nd leaf then purchase price is a barrier. I know that. Hopefully this will come down and you should weigh it against TCO savings. Not just fuel, which is significant, but servicing and tax and maintenance too.
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Is it true about parking and the green thing on the reg or an urban myth?
 
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