Steve Gibson open letter to Derby Administrators

DrummerMan said:
I was 'told' - so I don't how true this is.... there have been several HUGE arguments with MFC/Gibson and Derby/Morris in a few EFL meetings over the last few years..... so it's much deeper than money I would guess at this stage, like I said this information may be wrong, but who knows
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I think that's pretty common knowledge.
 
Gibsons letter makes similair points that the Wycome owner did on that phone in the other day.

Everyone loves an easy scapegoat, and Derby have Steve Gibson as theirs. At this stage the facts no longer matter to them, the Twitter sewer of threats and rubbish will continue.

Morris is at fault. Derby will not dissappear solely because of Boro and Wycome's legal action. The silent administrators have now admitted that their silence is a purposeful tactic, so they are playing a dangerous game with the future of Derby football club. Derby fans will still blame Gibson despite the administrators treating Boros and Wycome's action with utter distain and therefore putting the club's future at doubt.
 
DrummerMan said:
I was 'told' - so I don't how true this is.... there have been several HUGE arguments with MFC/Gibson and Derby/Morris in a few EFL meetings over the last few years..... so it's much deeper than money I would guess at this stage, like I said this information may be wrong, but who knows
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100%. Gibson's an old school owner, he doesn't have anywhere near the wallet that Mel Morris does (and most other championship owners do).

FFP is put in place to stop owners like MM buying clubs and then doing what he's done. It's in Gibson's (and Boros) best interest to take a stand and stop it happening.
 
I think Steve Gibson just wants the EFL hierarchy to get more professional.
They made a naïve deal with recently with Sky and their FFP rules have been laughed at by Derby, Reading, Sheff Wed and others.
If nothing else his action should make the League body take a look at itself and improve.

here's hoping.....
 
Be nice to hear and independent view of the entire situation really.
I'm glancing at comments in the local derby press and they're pretty hysterical.
 
Can anyone explain to me the history between Leeds United and Derby County and why it is worse than Boro/Leeds? LUFC fans have been all over twitter defending Boro or denigrating DCFC. in this thread started by Matt Lawton of The Times regarding Gibson's open letter, half of the replies are from Leeds fans, all in support of Gibson. I'm starting to feel fond of them.
 
Also Bielsa and the 'hiding in the trees' situation.
Then Derby beating Leeds in the play-off semi final.
Then Deby taking the mick out of Leeds after winning
 
BlindBoyGrunt said:
Can anyone explain to me the history between Leeds United and Derby County and why it is worse than Boro/Leeds? LUFC fans have been all over twitter defending Boro or denigrating DCFC. in this thread started by Matt Lawton of The Times regarding Gibson's open letter, half of the replies are from Leeds fans, all in support of Gibson. I'm starting to feel fond of them.
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Well, Derby's cheating led to them knocking Leeds out at the semi finals of the playoffs the season before they went up. Bit ironic that Derby accused Leeds of cheating with spygate that year too.
 
Gains said:
While I am fully behind Gibbo and what he's trying to achieve by defending himself, does anyone else think the letter and the statement before it are quite badly written?
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a little, but then that just makes it sound like it comes from the heart not some PR person
 
I've been reading the DCFC forums and I don't understand the vendetta they have with Gibson.
It's clearly not Gibson vs. DCFC.
It's Gibson vs. Bad Owners / Bad Administrators, and he's using Mel Morris and this administration deal to highlight it, to hopefully prevent it happening again in the future.

1. MSD (a lender) is owed a significant amount of money by Derby County which is personally guaranteed by Mel Morris. If Derby County went into liquidation, Mr Morris would have to settle the debt and therefore he has an interest in resolving the matter. Please confirm the current status of the discussions with the lender and Mr Morris about the debt and the transfer of Pride Park, which is owned by Mr Morris, to any purchaser of Derby County.
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Gibson vs. Bad Owners.
DCFC owe MSD Holdings £15 mill+, "which is personally guaranteed by MM". If DCFC can't pay it, MM needs to follow up on his guarantee?
If Derby do go into liquidation, MM will have to pay the £15 mill to MSD himself anyway. If Derby survive, DCFC will have to pay MSD, and MM saves £15 mill. So why isn't MM sorting it out?
MM owns Pride Park, so whoever buys Derby (who already have no money) will I assume then need to bankroll DCFC to lease the stadium from MM in order to play in it?
Gibson is highlighting massive flaws in the system.

2. You met with Steve Gibson in November 2021. It was agreed at the meeting there would be a continued dialogue between you and Mr Gibson. Why did you not then engage or communicate with him at all until Friday 14 January 2022?
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Gibson vs. Bad Administrators. Nothing to do with DCFC. Pretty obvious. Administrators agreed to continued discussion then didn't discuss anything.

3. As noted above, you give the impression that the sole issue that is left to resolve is our and Wycombe’s claim. Please confirm that you have reached a settlement with HMRC and the basis of that settlement.
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Gibson vs. Bad Administrators. Nothing to do with DCFC. Administrators leaking details to the media claiming the sole issue that is left is Boro/Wycombe.
Gibson highlighting if that's the case, DCFC must have already settled with HMRC, which should be in the public domain?

4. Contrary to what you leak to the media, we have made an offer to compromise our claim and met with your nominated representative last weekend. Please confirm that this is correct.
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Same as above. Gibson vs. Bad Administrators. Nothing to do with DCFC.

5. Please confirm how many millions of Derby County’s money you have spent on your fees to date and what additional debt you have incurred.
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Gibson vs. Bad Administrators. Nothing to do with DCFC. DCFC apparently have no money, yet the administrators are still charging massive fees, which DCFC have to pay, probably before paying other debtors, which is just making the situation worse.

Gibson would be fighting this fight no matter what club was at the other end of it. Derby, Sunderland, Man City, it doesn't matter.
 
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