Chav Boro supporters

r00fie1 said:
Has anyone been out in any city centre on a Friday / Saturday night and seen the damage and disorder caused by alcohol - intoxicated [mostly] blokes?
Get a grip.
Get some perspective and stop being so damn pious.
Of course its not acceptable behaviour [anywhere - not just footi stadia] - but dont declare World War Three.

Anyone on here broke the drunk-drive limit or broke the speed limit?
All angels then?
Its not ok to call fans "scum" and treat them like criminals.
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I’m sorry roofie, I like a lot of your posts and they can be very thought provoking but on this occasion I have to disagree. If fans act like scum and partake in criminal behaviour other fans who behave have every right to call them out on it. That behaviour harms our club financially and it’s reputation resulting in heavy handed policing like we recently had at Stoke as well as reduced allocations for away games.
 
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I’m sorry roofie, I like a lot of your posts and they can be very thought provoking but on this occasion I have to disagree. If fans act like scum and partake in criminal behaviour other fans who behave have every right to call them out on it. That behaviour harms our club financially and it’s reputation resulting in heavy handed policing like we recently had at Stoke as well as reduced allocations for away games.
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I understand the point you make and I dont entirely disagree, but it sometimes seems as if people are quick to condemn.
The "heavy handed" coppers at Stoke was a bit more than just combatting hooligans. Pepper-spraying children needs condemning and investigating. Which Senior Officer(s) decided to adopt and sanction those tactics?

We have to all police those tiny few who think smashing seats is "fun": an app on phones to immediately report the perpetrators and stewards who can remove them quickly [rather than indiscriminately "wade in"] might make them think twice.

There is also an organised element who embed themselves in clubs to deliberately cause trouble - to provoke.
Almost all grounds have facial recognition and intelligence to spot and weed out the perpetrators, who need banning for life and made to report to cop-shops on matchdays - to prevent them from attending.

It might not prevent 14 year olds from going on the pitch - but that comes through education.
Its like educating immature adolescents that playing on train lines isnt "fun".
Wading in and using violence against kids isnt the answer.

If other fans are going to shop the minority, it has to be able to be done discretely, so someone is not seen "grassing" people up.
They always have associates who make life "difficult" if you stand up against them.
The issue is not just "football" hooligans, but about doing more to prevent rather than react.
I take your point (y)
 
My seat and my sons were on there last legs when we got into the ground both facing down over and felt very insecure , good job we stood the majority of the game
 
r00fie1 said:
Has anyone been out in any city centre on a Friday / Saturday night and seen the damage and disorder caused by alcohol - intoxicated [mostly] blokes?
Get a grip.
Get some perspective and stop being so damn pious.
Of course its not acceptable behaviour [anywhere - not just footi stadia] - but dont declare World War Three.

Anyone on here broke the drunk-drive limit or broke the speed limit?
All angels then?
Its not ok to call fans "scum" and treat them like criminals.
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Would expect the majority have never broken the drink drive limit and it’s a bit daft to use it as a comparison. Anyone who has is nothing but scum
 
The photo above of the damaged seats is damning - remember how we have reacted to damage at our stadium in concourse.

It is possible that the breakages were in fact through cumulative damage and a number of those seats already being on their last legs, but that really doesn't excuse breaking them.
Charge whoever has broken them; the club have the details of everybody they sold seats to, so this should be straightforward.
How could there be a counter argument to this?
 
indeedido said:
The photo above of the damaged seats is damning - remember how we have reacted to damage at our stadium in concourse.

It is possible that the breakages were in fact through cumulative damage and a number of those seats already being on their last legs, but that really doesn't excuse breaking them.
Charge whoever has broken them; the club have the details of everybody they sold seats to, so this should be straightforward.
How could there be a counter argument to this?
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Yes because only the allocated ticket holder could have broken it - there's an invisible force-field preventing physical contact by other attendees :D

#sarcasm
 
So we’ve got a picture from after the game but haven’t got one from before. Didn’t Bloomfield Road have Portaloos at the game? I wasn’t there but I saw that mentioned. The stadiums quite clearly in need of some refurbishment. Do you think perhaps a number of seats got damaged by accident in over exuberant goal celebrations given the nature of the winner? Or shall we just start an agenda that an army of coked up and boozed up Anthony Joshua’s went round smashing seats to pieces?
 
joeydiaz said:
So we’ve got a picture from after the game but haven’t got one from before. Didn’t Bloomfield Road have Portaloos at the game? I wasn’t there but I saw that mentioned. The stadiums quite clearly in need of some refurbishment. Do you think perhaps a number of seats got damaged by accident in over exuberant goal celebrations given the nature of the winner? Or shall we just start an agenda that an army of coked up and boozed up Anthony Joshua’s went round smashing seats to pieces?
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Joey man, yes seats got damaged, there is proof.
I was going daft when the goals went in, particularly Watmore's, but didn't see the need to break my seat.
Defending people doing that is strange. Opposing them paying for their actions is stranger.

I was in the side of our allocation that had the portaloos. They weren't a huge problem and there weren't massive queues, there was more issue with the poor seat numbering and confusion caused by that in our section. Also by poor signage for away fans entering through the north east corner.
Blackpool is a nice little stadium on three sides and they don't normally get anywhere near 3.3k visiting fans in the temporary stand.
They also made a hell of a racket and atmosphere for a small crowd - just like they did at The Riverside.
 
If seats were purposefully damaged then I’m absolutely against that, and those should be identified and made to pay for the repair costs. I said that in the lads whatsapp group I’m in when that picture came to light.

I just find it hard to believe that a group of Boro fans purposefully damaged seats to the extent that’s shown on the image, if I’m wrong then I stand corrected.

I landed three rows infront of me when Stuani scored that screamer at the SOL, I’m 17 stone now if I did that now I probably take out a few seats 🤷‍♂️. That’s what I meant by the exuberant celebrations.
 
JM14 said:
You surely aren’t defending drink driving are you?
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The point being that all those quick to condemn and shout about the "law" are behaving hollier-than-thou. As you and I know, things are never that black and white.
 
r00fie1 said:
The point being that all those quick to condemn and shout about the "law" are behaving hollier-than-thou. As you and I know, things are never that black and white.
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I dont know anyone personally on here, but I highly doubt many of us have decided to run on the pitch, destroy some seats or drive while drunk. The poor behaviour should be spoken about and criticised. Its only a few weeks since we were all on here complaining about innocent fans being caught up in trouble with the police against Stoke. Behaviour that we saw at Blackpool will only lead to this happening more often and likely reduced allocations on top of that
 
The EFL and FSA are both reporting a major shift in the demographic and more importantly behaviour of away fans throughout the Championship this season. It is not just at Boro. It is a serious enough change to be concerning a lot of people around football right now.
It is brilliant for Boro that we are selling out every away stadium and also that we have so many younger fans following the club. It means there is a real future in the game as a live and actual event. But there are also a lot of issues across Championship football fandom right now and they need a lot of thought and discussion about the directions things are moving in.
I have been to every Boro away game since 1998 and after the first game of this season I told people that we had a big shift in the type of supporters in the Boro end of the ground. At the time I didn't know if it was a one-off but it wasn't. And it seems not just at Boro either. There are a lot of positives and also negatives too. Changing times.
 
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JM14 said:
I dont know anyone personally on here, but I highly doubt many of us have decided to run on the pitch, destroy some seats or drive while drunk. The poor behaviour should be spoken about and criticised. Its only a few weeks since we were all on here complaining about innocent fans being caught up in trouble with the police against Stoke. Behaviour that we saw at Blackpool will only lead to this happening more often and likely reduced allocations on top of that
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What do you suggest is done about it and by whom? That`s a serious question.
 
fmttmadmin said:
The EFL and FSA are both reporting a major shift in the demographic and more importantly behaviour of away fans throughout the Championship this season. It is not just at Boro. It is a serious enough change to be concerning a lot of people around football right now.
It is brilliant for Boro that we are selling out every away stadium and also that we have so many younger fans following the club. It means there is a real future in the game as a live and actual event. But there are also a lot of issues across Championship football fandom right now and they need a lot of thought and discussion about the directions things are moving in.
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Agree entirely Rob. Its not just a football issue; it cuts across all aspects of society. A circumspect and pragmatic approach is required. Football mirrors society and cant be made accountable to "solve" all its problems. We all have to take responsibility (y)
 
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