The 9am figures not disclosed yet?

My point been if we have the likes of police officers not wearing them or council staff then the general public aren't going to bother either. All our front of house staff at work wear a face covering whilst on shift (voluntarily may I add) as you don't want to upset anybody who may still be wary of things.
That's exactly my reason for wearing one.
 
The people who are still very wary should definitely stay at home and not venture out at all I reckon.

If it gives them so much worry to even contemplate going down the pub or even shopping because others are not weary the mask then this is what must happen.

What makes me laugh is when you see responsible adults going in to a pub with their masks on a d acting very cautiously around others... 5 hrs later and maybe 7-10 pints, they're all over other people like wet cement cuddling and virtually talking inside their lugs.

This is a crazy world we're living in and when the agenda suits... It suits... After alcohol the agenda goes out of the window 🤣🤣
 
The people who are still very wary should definitely stay at home and not venture out at all I reckon.

If it gives them so much worry to even contemplate going down the pub or even shopping because others are not weary the mask then this is what must happen.

What makes me laugh is when you see responsible adults going in to a pub with their masks on a d acting very cautiously around others... 5 hrs later and maybe 7-10 pints, they're all over other people like wet cement cuddling and virtually talking inside their lugs.

This is a crazy world we're living in and when the agenda suits... It suits... After alcohol the agenda goes out of the window 🤣🤣
There is probably a large dollop of truth in that.
 
As of 9am on 2 September, 6,862,904 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 38,154 (38,281 on corresponding day last week).

178 deaths were reported today (140 on corresponding day last week).

156,119 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 20 August).

48,131,996 have had a first dose vaccination. 44,088 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 43,023,372 have had a second dose. 113,385 second dose vaccinations today.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 38,154 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 35,693
• 7-day average for new cases decreases by 0.1% to 33,736 per day, following 0.1% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 1.0% lower than one week ago (from 0.2% lower yesterday) and 10.0% higher than two weeks ago (from 11.9% higher yesterday and 19.7% higher 7 days ago)
• 178 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 207 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 5.1% to 111.0 per day, following 8.5% increase yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 0.9% higher than one week ago (from 0.5% lower yesterday) and 15.3% higher than two weeks ago (from 12.8% higher yesterday and 25.2% higher 7 days ago)
 
As of 9am on 3 September, 6,904,969 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 42,076 (38,046 on corresponding day last week).

121 deaths were reported today (100 on corresponding day last week).

156,119 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 20 August).

48,171,992 have had a first dose vaccination. 40,002 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 43,142,747 have had a second dose. 119,375 second dose vaccinations today.
 
Today's headline analysis:

• 42,076 new cases reported in 24-hour period, up from yesterday's 38,154
• 7-day average for new cases increases by 1.7% to 34,312 per day, following 0.1% decrease yesterday
• 7-day average for new cases is 0.4% higher than one week ago (from 1.0% lower yesterday) and 9.5% higher than two weeks ago (from 10.0% higher yesterday and 19.6% higher 7 days ago)
• 121 new deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported in 24-hour period, down from 178 yesterday
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test increases by 2.7% to 114.0 per day, following 5.1% increase yesterday (and 27th increase in the past 34 days)
• 7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 5.6% higher than one week ago (from 0.9% higher yesterday) and 16.0% higher than two weeks ago (from 15.3% higher yesterday and 21.3% higher 7 days ago)
 
7-day average for new deaths within 28 days of a positive test is 5.6% higher than one week ago (from 0.9% higher yesterday) and 16.0% higher than two weeks ago (from 15.3% higher yesterday and 21.3% higher 7 days ago)
That increase is alarmingly high.
 
The people who are still very wary should definitely stay at home and not venture out at all I reckon.

If it gives them so much worry to even contemplate going down the pub or even shopping because others are not weary the mask then this is what must happen.

What makes me laugh is when you see responsible adults going in to a pub with their masks on a d acting very cautiously around others... 5 hrs later and maybe 7-10 pints, they're all over other people like wet cement cuddling and virtually talking inside their lugs.

This is a crazy world we're living in and when the agenda suits... It suits... After alcohol the agenda goes out of the window 🤣🤣
What a horribly selfish attitude. People who are worried about covid should stay at home because me, and others like me, refuse to wear masks. Have we always been this selfish as a nation? It makes me sad.
 
Schools are about to go back and we are starting from a high base of cases and deaths. Very concerning.
Is it though, concerning I mean. I don't know the answer to this question but a little research shows that in June this year covid was responsible for 2.4% of all deaths in that month. Dementia and alzhiemers were 11%.

I know covid is infectious so it's not that simple but we are unlikely to eradicate covid and the number of deaths as a proportion of infections is now much lower than last year.

At what point do deaths become acceptable. Not expecting you to answer this Chris is a loaded question but we accept deaths from other causes so the question I guess becomes what rate of infections overwhelms the nhs and results in an unacceptable death toll.

Again I have no idea but it shouldn't be too difficult to model.

One interesting fact is in May this year covid was responsible for 0.9% of deaths and 2 months later 2.4% so it's clearly increasing.

My primary concern would be the poor governmental management rather than infections or deaths as one clearly leads to the other.

Oh I don't know
 
Is it though, concerning I mean. I don't know the answer to this question but a little research shows that in June this year covid was responsible for 2.4% of all deaths in that month. Dementia and alzhiemers were 11%.

I know covid is infectious so it's not that simple but we are unlikely to eradicate covid and the number of deaths as a proportion of infections is now much lower than last year.

At what point do deaths become acceptable. Not expecting you to answer this Chris is a loaded question but we accept deaths from other causes so the question I guess becomes what rate of infections overwhelms the nhs and results in an unacceptable death toll.

Again I have no idea but it shouldn't be too difficult to model.

One interesting fact is in May this year covid was responsible for 0.9% of deaths and 2 months later 2.4% so it's clearly increasing.

My primary concern would be the poor governmental management rather than infections or deaths as one clearly leads to the other.

Oh I don't know
Last year Whitty quoted 8,000 deaths as the average for flu deaths each year (Spigelhalter said 7,000 on the Today programme the same week). When we had a vaccine with only 30% efficacy, the deaths were just under 30,000). Clearly 30,000 deaths a year isn't acceptable as we put in a lot of precautionary measures to reduce that figure each year. There are only a few causes of death that exceed that figure with Alzheimer's and dementia at about 70,000 a year.

We're currently at 40,000 deaths per year from Covid at 114 deaths per day. I don't believe any public health organisation would say this is acceptable for a disease that is to some degree preventable / treatable / avoidable. I don't believe overwhelming the health service will become the long term acceptability measure for this disease.
 
Is it though, concerning I mean. I don't know the answer to this question but a little research shows that in June this year covid was responsible for 2.4% of all deaths in that month. Dementia and alzhiemers were 11%.

I know covid is infectious so it's not that simple but we are unlikely to eradicate covid and the number of deaths as a proportion of infections is now much lower than last year.

At what point do deaths become acceptable. Not expecting you to answer this Chris is a loaded question but we accept deaths from other causes so the question I guess becomes what rate of infections overwhelms the nhs and results in an unacceptable death toll.

Again I have no idea but it shouldn't be too difficult to model.

One interesting fact is in May this year covid was responsible for 0.9% of deaths and 2 months later 2.4% so it's clearly increasing.

My primary concern would be the poor governmental management rather than infections or deaths as one clearly leads to the other.

Oh I don't know

The concern is definitely based on the fact that the government have done nothing to mitigate against any sharp rise in case, either from schools going back or a new variant.

Boris Johnson has backed himself into a corner and knows bringing back restrictions would, from this point, be political suicide. Washing their hands of responsibility and blaming everyone else seems to be their only tactic left.
 
Last year Whitty quoted 8,000 deaths as the average for flu deaths each year (Spigelhalter said 7,000 on the Today programme the same week). When we had a vaccine with only 30% efficacy, the deaths were just under 30,000). Clearly 30,000 deaths a year isn't acceptable as we put in a lot of precautionary measures to reduce that figure each year. There are only a few causes of death that exceed that figure with Alzheimer's and dementia at about 70,000 a year.

We're currently at 40,000 deaths per year from Covid at 114 deaths per day. I don't believe any public health organisation would say this is acceptable for a disease that is to some degree preventable / treatable / avoidable. I don't believe overwhelming the health service will become the long term acceptability measure for this disease.
I would agree with that bear but it presupposes we don't get to herd immunity and deaths continue at 100+ per day. I think they will go up but with 35 thousand infections a day and, presumably, those people become more immune and second vaccinations ongoing, the number of deaths and infections will drop, or at least you would hope so.

We were told 60 to 70% infection rates lead to hers immunity based on a lower r number, what's the %for hers immunity now? I don't know that either btw.

We will probably know where we are heading by winter.
 
The concern is definitely based on the fact that the government have done nothing to mitigate against any sharp rise in case, either from schools going back or a new variant.

Boris Johnson has backed himself into a corner and knows bringing back restrictions would, from this point, be political suicide. Washing their hands of responsibility and blaming everyone else seems to be their only tactic left.
They absolutely put all their eggs in the vaccination basket. I hope it works.
 
I would agree with that bear but it presupposes we don't get to herd immunity and deaths continue at 100+ per day. I think they will go up but with 35 thousand infections a day and, presumably, those people become more immune and second vaccinations ongoing, the number of deaths and infections will drop, or at least you would hope so.

We were told 60 to 70% infection rates lead to hers immunity based on a lower r number, what's the %for hers immunity now? I don't know that either btw.

We will probably know where we are heading by winter.
That's clearly the 'policy' with even health professionals holding fire at the moment. We seem to be the right country to determine whether herd immunity is on the horizon. Decent vaccination programme and widespread infections! I was for an early inquiry, but another year will determine whether this government had got it wrong, wrong, wrong, right or wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
 
That's clearly the 'policy' with even health professionals holding fire at the moment. We seem to be the right country to determine whether herd immunity is on the horizon. Decent vaccination programme and widespread infections! I was for an early inquiry, but another year will determine whether this government had got it wrong, wrong, wrong, right or wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
I like the characterization in the last line
 
As of 9am on 4 September, 6,941,611 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 37,578 (32,406 on corresponding day last week).

120 deaths were reported today (134 on corresponding day last week).

156,119 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 20 August).

48,205,585 have had a first dose vaccination. 33,587 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 43,251,037 have had a second dose. 108,290 second dose vaccinations today.
 
As of 9am on 5 September, 6,978,126 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 37,011 (33,196 on corresponding day last week).

68 deaths were reported today (61 on corresponding day last week).

156,119 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 20 August).

48,245,337 have had a first dose vaccination. 39,752 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 43,378,193 have had a second dose. 127,156 second dose vaccinations today
 
As of 9am on 6 September, 7,018,927 people have tested positive for COVID-19 in the UK.

Positive cases were 41,192 (26,476 on corresponding day last week).

45 deaths were reported today (48 on corresponding day last week).

156,119 deaths with Covid-19 on the death certificate (up to 20 August).

48,270,113 have had a first dose vaccination. 21,795 first dose vaccinations yesterday. 43,455,083 have had a second dose. 73,193 second dose vaccinations today
 
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