Does art and music work well together?

Jannizart

Jannizart

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I’d like to think you can hang a piece of art on your wall and then take it down and play it. It doesn’t matter if the artwork gets scuffed or rubbed away in places. That happens anyway to a regular guitar. What do you think? Would you hang one on a wall or would you play something this shape? I’m asking because we’re thinking of giving up on making them 247F1622-25A2-4B84-A3E0-AD123CCD369E.jpeg63533331-0AAC-44CD-A346-69CA247AFB79.jpeg25E06EA8-B5F8-4ADF-B331-85AD81E27DD6.jpeg
 
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I think they’re great, but they’re also a niche market. You’d have to work very hard or be in with the right people to sell a lot of them. They shouldn’t depreciate though, and if it’s a hobby that makes you happy, there’s no harm in making the odd one here and there as they sell.
 
Art comes from within so you shouldn’t give up on making them based on the opinion of others. You should reflect on why you made them and then decide if you feel you want to continue to produce the genre or whether you’ve explored it as far as you feel you are able and want to move on to other ideas / genres. Just my opinion but an artist produces what they feel not what other people want or think.
 
SilentProf said:
I think they’re great, but they’re also a niche market. You’d have to work very hard or be in with the right people to sell a lot of them. They shouldn’t depreciate though, and if it’s a hobby that makes you happy, there’s no harm in making the odd one here and there as they sell.
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Thanks for your comment SilentProf. Ideally we’d like to make them to order but we had to have something to show the possibilities. It’s my other half’s hobby along with restoring very old furniture. I’m just up against a brick wall trying to find the niche market for him. He’s fast losing the buzz he initially had
 
El Guapo said:
Art comes from within so you shouldn’t give up on making them based on the opinion of others. You should reflect on why you made them and then decide if you feel you want to continue to produce the genre or whether you’ve explored it as far as you feel you are able and want to move on to other ideas / genres. Just my opinion but an artist produces what they feel not what other people want or think.
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Oh I’m so with you in this Guapo. I’ve had this battle myself for many years over my abstract work. I’m back to doing it again now and am hopeful that going down the soft furnishings route may just work for it this time. The guitars are made by my husband but we both decided adding artwork made them a bit different to the norm
 
Jannizart said:
I’d like to think you can hang a piece of art on your wall and then take it down and play it. It doesn’t matter if the artwork gets scuffed or rubbed away in places. That happens anyway to a regular guitar. What do you think? Would you hang one on a wall or would you play something this shape? I’m asking because we’re thinking of giving up on making them View attachment 23036View attachment 23037View attachment 23038
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Did you have a go at getting Steve James, guitar shop in Saltburn, to put one or two on sale for you ?
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Did you have a go at getting Steve James, guitar shop in Saltburn, to put one or two on sale for you ?
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I spoke to someone who works there who didn’t think there would be an interest in the Union Jack 6 string. They weren’t very helpful to be honest. I should probably try to catch Steve himself. The art gallery wanted them but the mark up they were going to put on them made them far too expensive. I can’t quite get my head around people paying for a piece of art and an instrument. I’m pretty much doing my artwork fir nothing and I’m ok with that
 
Those oil can guitars look great. There is a niche market for them, and pre-covid you used to see people at specialist guitar shows selling these sort of things. But I think that it really is quite niche, so your typical local guitar shop might not be that interested unfortunately, as they will likely be selling Squire Stratocaster starter packs and standard acoustics to beginners most of the time.
 
Is there not a way to get an advert in some specialist guitar/music magazine. Showing a few pics or directing to a webpage where pics can be viewed.

Yes, it is niche, but I'm sure some people who are interested in music/art would potentially be prepared to pay for a one off bespoke designed product. If they can have input into the design process perhaps?

Don't know if there would be a market but if you could get an advert somewhere in the right publication it might be worth a month or two to see what happens?
 
Have a look on thefretboard forum. There might be somewhere on there that you can plug your stuff. Need to check what they allow first of course.
 
Steer said:
Those oil can guitars look great. There is a niche market for them, and pre-covid you used to see people at specialist guitar shows selling these sort of things. But I think that it really is quite niche, so your typical local guitar shop might not be that interested unfortunately, as they will likely be selling Squire Stratocaster starter packs and standard acoustics to beginners most of the time.
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Totally agree with you there Steer
I’m thinking our market is probably older men who aren’t in a band but just like to have a strum now and then- bit like my other half who can’t really play a whole piece but just plays bits of songs he likes 😉
 
theredrooster said:
Is there not a way to get an advert in some specialist guitar/music magazine. Showing a few pics or directing to a webpage where pics can be viewed.

Yes, it is niche, but I'm sure some people who are interested in music/art would potentially be prepared to pay for a one off bespoke designed product. If they can have input into the design process perhaps?

Don't know if there would be a market but if you could get an advert somewhere in the right publication it might be worth a month or two to see what happens?
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We had a full page ad and a feature written about us in the NE Volume Music Mag July Edition and had no response from that, I was on BBC tees a couple of months ago too talking about the Gordon Giltrap connection with me and Roseberry Topping. I really believe it’s going to be a slow word of mouth thing over everything else. Gordon Giltrap was the first person to buy one and that was a challenge to get it set up to his way of playing but we found a great guy locally to do it for us. Thanks for the suggestions redrooster 🙂
 
I learnt my answer to this many many years ago in Disney, and the answer is yes.

You have to queue up to ride as they put photographs across a wall to music. It was stunning.

Listen to any soundtrack to film, Hans Zimmer is a great example he can be mesmerising.
 
Same_as_before said:
I learnt my answer to this many many years ago in Disney, and the answer is yes.

You have to queue up to ride as they put photographs across a wall to music. It was stunning.

Listen to any soundtrack to film, Hans Zimmer is a great example he can be mesmerising.
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Every picture tells a story and songs tell stories too but recently I was sent a cd of music tracks with titles but no lyrics and was asked to create a painting from just listening to them. Not as easy as putting words to them
 
Emerson Lake and Palmer would have been a good start.

It's quite odd. People think art is part of 'snobbery' but it's the opposite.

As I have aged I have become more emotional and find my self in tears when looking at art and listening to music.

The Transporter Bridge does it for me, I always think of Vaughan Williams and yes I know he is not industrial, it's simply the movement.
 
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Same_as_before said:
Emerson Lake and Palmer would have been a good start.

It's quite odd. People think art is part of 'snobbery' but it's the opposite.

As I have aged I have become more emotional and find my self in tears when looking at art and listening to music.

The Transporter Bridge does it for me, I always think of Vaughan Williams and yes I know he is not industrial, it's simply the movement.
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I always paint whilst listening to music. They both switch my thoughts off And what happens on the canvas happens usually with no planning. I’d like to share this with you if I may. A guitar teacher had a vision of him meeting up with his favourite composers, Ravel, Mahler and Debussy. I created the image for him but sadly he didn’t like my version of him so I still have it and don’t want to paint over it. I think he was zooming in on the image too closely and forgetting that when it’s on a wall you never get that close to it. I did enjoy playing their music whilst painting it
 

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Jannizart said:
Thanks Steer, is that part of fmttm?
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No. Here - probably the biggest guitar forum in the UK: https://www.thefretboard.co.uk/ There have made in the UK and Plug my Stuff sub forums.

Problem I see is that oil can guitars are already niche and decorated ones even more so, which means that the market for such things is probably a lot smaller than if you did similar but with more normal electric and acoustic guitars.
 
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