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HundredRoom said:
There was that bloke in Gateshead who was prosecuted for selling bananas by the pound
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The bloke in Gateshead obviously had too much time on his hands.

Who cares if we went decimal 50 years ago? Youngsters don’t even know what a pound weight is.

Some of these idiots probably want Half Crowns and Threepeny Bits brought back.

Like the bloke and the banana last night, please somebody give him something worthwhile to worry about, it’s head shaking stuff really.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
Rational people don't, the bendy banana type stories - lots written by Johnson - are aimed at a swivel eyed, foaming at the mouth kind of person; the type who gets all red in the face at the thought of them over there telling us what do do over 'ere.

It seems to be a vote winner.
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The 'wonky' veg at the supermarket tastes just as good and it's usually half the price.
 
SmallTown said:
You appear to be missing the point. I think deliberately. This thread alone was showing the most persistent and longest running of the many lies we were fed to get to brexit. The fact this one is so old and people are still believing it is just crazy. You talk of democracy and respecting the outcome. It’s an outcome based on lies and hatred. I’m happy to reconcile but only with people who can acknowledge the truth. Only with people who don’t use blatant and easily verifiable lies as a basis for their actions. You’ll see remainders constantly, constantly asking for the benefits of Brexit. And constantly this will always end up in an argument because there are very few. If that simple question could be answered unquestionably then I could reconcile. Until then no, to meet someone halfway they have to come halfway as well
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The Brexit vote ‘winners’ (10 million didn’t vote, so nowhere near a majority vote) have always adopted a win - lose attitude, urged on by nutters like Johnson, Farage and Rees Mogg who have other agendas.

If you have a win - lose attitude then you don’t get unity.

This country is shockingly divided and it will probably get worse.
 
I am going to regret this I know.

I agree with BoroMart mostly, in as much as I didn't want to leave the customs union or single market when I cast my vote and was told, both before and after that that would not happen. Was my vote stolen? Probably.

Where I agree with Coluka is that there is absolutely nothing that can be done about the referendum now. It has been tested in court and due to it's non-binding nature we are stuck with the result, election law didn't apply to it. That being the case we really need to start getting along again.

The continuous brexit posts are mind numbingly boring. It has all been said and doesn't need repeating on a weekly basis. Either they are used to insult each other or to wind each other up. They are pointless politically and constructively.
 
Laughing said:
They are pointless politically and constructively.
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I disagree that they are pointless. The arguments mean that it stays fresh and a 'live' issue which will help us to rejoin sooner rather than later.

I for one will not just accept it. Appreciate we ain't rejoining in next 10 years but after that I think the weight of numbers of young, progressive people will eventually get us back in there.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I disagree that they are pointless. The arguments mean that it stays fresh and a 'live' issue which will help us to rejoin sooner rather than later.

I for one will not just accept it. Appreciate we ain't rejoining in next 10 years but after that I think the weight of numbers of young, progressive people will eventually get us back in there.
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Colgate, we're all entitled to our opinion, but I am not sure how you can say anything is fresh about the constant brexit bickering. I also don't see how it helps us rejoin.

The appetite to rejoin will increase over time if the economy slumps enough to effect those who voted to leave the EU. If their ability to holiday abroad or work abroad is impacted enough to create a changed attitude.

What won't increase the appetite is constant bickering.

The EU have said on a number of occasions they would welcome the UK back but ONLY if there was an overwhelming desire from the public to rejoin. That desire is going to be stifled by constant name calling. It entrenches opinion.
 
BoroMart said:
No I'm not your mate, and very comfortable in that fact. If you think you are being polite, you probably need to work on your manners and self awareness a bit.

It's pretty simple, read and comprehend before responding to anything
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With that attitude and tone you are probably nobody’s mate if you can’t accept different views i guess. The problem with the pack on here re brexit is they are aggressive and blind to reality. Pack wolves that gnaw away and try to kill differing views, their understanding and really, its a hate crime that seems to be allowed to play out by people that really should know better. Playground bullies thrive on social media. You and your type think you are better, brighter and more astute, you are not. You just have different opinions which last time i looked was a part of a democracy. Constantly wanting your opinions imposed and dictated upon others that view things differently is a form of the facism you claim to hate, funny old bitter world.
 
BoroMart said:
You can sell by the pound, but you need to put a standardised kg price on display too. What is the problem with protecting consumers with standardised measurement systems? and even better decimalised systems instead of antiquated nonsensical ones?


By the way, the metric system has been in use since 1965 in the UK, 8 years before we joined the EEC, it was OUR decision to abandon the imperial system as it was utterly impractical. The vast majority of Brits only really know metric. You need to be in your 70s to have not been schooled in the metric system. It's like arguing for the right to write your terms and conditions only in latin which most of your consumers won't understand.
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That's not true. The government in 1965 might have decided that metrication was the way forward, but Imperial measurements were still taught in schools in the 1970s, and later. Metrication has never really fully happened, and I suspect in future we are more likely to go back towards Imperial than further on to metrication.

And I doubt the vast majority of people really only know metric. Most people who use Imperial weights think it's a practical and useful system. Distances are still measured in miles, and people drink pints of milk and beer. Imperial measurements are easy to visualise, and (for every day use) easy to work with. In labs and industry no doubt the metric system is easier. And Fahrenheit - far easier to use, and more precise than Centigrade.
 
Randy said:
Does anybody seriously care what shape a banana is? Or any fruit and veg for that matter as long as it's fresh and tastes good.
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Correct, no one cares, and no one, including the EU ever did. The only people that pretended to care were some brexiteer propogandists, who willfully misinterpreted some EU rules so that they could claim bananas had to be a ccertain shape.
 
coluka said:
With that attitude and tone you are probably nobody’s mate if you can’t accept different views i guess.
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I can't accept lies, that's all fella. Behave with your wolf cry about being bullied. You had your voice, and tried to defend people continuing a repeated lie about bananas. That is what is divisive, the continued propagation of hate, by ridiculing the EU through lies. You really care about bringing this country back together, you can, if you have the balls and honesty, admit that the guy is an example of some ultra-brexiteers that have been brainwashed into stupidity. You can accept that, while still believing that leaving was the right thing to do. They aren't mutually exclusive views.
 
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Soutra said:
That's not true. The government in 1965 might have decided that metrication was the way forward, but Imperial measurements were still taught in schools in the 1970s, and later. Metrication has never really fully happened, and I suspect in future we are more likely to go back towards Imperial than further on to metrication.
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Everyone from 65-72ish were taught both systems. There is absolutely no way that we will return to imperial, anyone under the age of 40 hasn't been taught it.

We use miles and drink pints, those two are culturally embedded and will stay, but people are pretty comfortable with metres and centimetres more than inches and yards. Just asked my 18 and 15 year olds and they don't have a clue what a yard is, daughter doesn't knows how many inches in a foot but knows her height in feet and inches because of me measuring her. Neither know how many pounds in a stone. These are A**students.

Imperial weights, they will not be re-accepted.

Soutra said:
Imperial measurements are easy to visualise, and (for every day use) easy to work with. In labs and industry no doubt the metric system is easier.
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That is your personal perception, and I am of the age where both were taught fairly equally and I can visualise a foot and a metre equally. Imperial isn't better for that, it's just different. The benefit is the concept of decimilised measurements, they are far simpler to use than imperial. Sorry, but it ain't coming back in measurement or weights
 
HolgateCorner said:
The Brexit vote ‘winners’ (10 million didn’t vote, so nowhere near a majority vote) have always adopted a win - lose attitude, urged on by nutters like Johnson, Farage and Rees Mogg who have other agendas.
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lets not forget Farage's comments hours before the declaration, that if they lose, they'll try again. Yet here they are trying to subjugate anyone with alternative thoughts to them.
 
Laughing said:
I am going to regret this I know.

I agree with BoroMart mostly, in as much as I didn't want to leave the customs union or single market when I cast my vote and was told, both before and after that that would not happen. Was my vote stolen? Probably.

Where I agree with Coluka is that there is absolutely nothing that can be done about the referendum now. It has been tested in court and due to it's non-binding nature we are stuck with the result, election law didn't apply to it. That being the case we really need to start getting along again.

The continuous brexit posts are mind numbingly boring. It has all been said and doesn't need repeating on a weekly basis. Either they are used to insult each other or to wind each other up. They are pointless politically and constructively.
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I completely disagree. You have woken up to the fact that the Brexit you thought about wasn’t the Brexit you voted for. Views are very entrenched at the moment but it’s blatantly clear to most people now that Brexit is failing and it’s being implemented in the worst possible way. If we keep discussing the issues and explaining the things going wrong my hope is that eventually even the most die hard, “you lost get over it” brexiteers will release that even if you’re pro Brexit this isn’t what you wanted. Then we can start reversing some of the decisions that are destroying us. The customs union being the most obvious one.
 
SmallTown said:
I completely disagree. You have woken up to the fact that the Brexit you thought about wasn’t the Brexit you voted for. Views are very entrenched at the moment but it’s blatantly clear to most people now that Brexit is failing and it’s being implemented in the worst possible way. If we keep discussing the issues and explaining the things going wrong my hope is that eventually even the most die hard, “you lost get over it” brexiteers will release that even if you’re pro Brexit this isn’t what you wanted. Then we can start reversing some of the decisions that are destroying us. The customs union being the most obvious one.
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That's probably one of the most condescending posts I have ever read.
 
BoroMart said:
I can't accept lies, that's all fella. Behave with your wolf cry about being bullied. You had your voice, and tried to defend people continuing a repeated lie about bananas. That is what is divisive, the continued propagation of hate, by ridiculing the EU through lies. You really care about bringing this country back together, you can, if you have the balls and honesty, admit that the guy is an example of some ultra-brexiteers that have been brainwashed into stupidity. You can accept that, while still believing that leaving was the right thing to do. They aren't mutually exclusive views.
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Oh dear ☹️
I am not and have not been defending anyone about the shape of a banana. If you look upwards I said it was rightly refuted as rubbish. I never defended anyone on that score.

You seem so entrenched and angry, what is it about democracy that you are so angry about? We were all given a vote, we all had a say if we wanted to. I always said it was a stupid decision to have a referendum it was not necessary. However, we live in a form of democracy and the vote was high stakes gamble by a failed politician. Instead of some ‘remainers‘ channelling hate and attempting to belittle those voting for brexit (we are not all the same as some bigots love to claim), chanel efforts to get on with life.

I have no truck if democracy decides to rejoin the EU in future. I will roll with the cards dealt and ensure life carries on and make the best of what time i have left. Nobody has been brainwashed, to suggest anyone has is a lie in itself. Society is made up of all sorts, well educated and poorly educated people and a great swathe in between. It was the so called educated people who called the unnecessary referendum lets not forget. Lies were told on all sides sadly. The Tories continue with it to this day, we the people have a say every few years and all this attacking one another entrenches and divides us all. People can never come together if they are dogmatic in their view and display hatred and anger at those they hope to change the views of. Bitterness from all sides is inadvertently risking this country becoming a one party state never mind a failed two party state and for me thats a far bigger concern.
 
Laughing said:
They are pointless politically and constructively.
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I don't really agree, there is accountability required for decisions, the lag effects need to be measured, and the overall outcomes understood. Without that, nothing can be learned. What we have learned is that a huge amount of disinformation formed the brexit campaign and this post highlighted that it has perpetuated. If you don't want to learn from events, and you don't want to have a fairer, more truthful society, then that's your personal call.
 
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