I will never show a vaccine pass to go in pub , football stadium or any other business that asks for one

Not really - seems like they’re very much enforced. Either way I’ll cope with being part of a two tier society if it comes to that. I am a man of principle if nothing else




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Cutting off your nose to spite your face! Good work. You should join team brexit. They specialise in it
 
I naturally wouldn’t want an introduction of identity cards either. I’ve been to China a few times and the level of control is awful. That said I’m sure the government don’t need a vaccine passport to kick things off and could always adopt an identity card if they wanted to anyway.

So the pubs and restaurants can’t survive at 40% capacity and you don’t want the vaccine passport. So what is the solution? Open up and take the risk?
Doesn't seem to be a problem in Texas.
 
The thing about Project Fear, you can’t turn fear on and off like a tap, one minute, the deaths and hospitalisations in every bodies face and you must not leave the house, the next get back to your offices and keep the town centre sarnie shops afloat, the fear gets into everyone’s physche , it can’t just be turned off.
 
I naturally wouldn’t want an introduction of identity cards either. I’ve been to China a few times and the level of control is awful. That said I’m sure the government don’t need a vaccine passport to kick things off and could always adopt an identity card if they wanted to anyway.

So the pubs and restaurants can’t survive at 40% capacity and you don’t want the vaccine passport. So what is the solution? Open up and take the risk?
If vaccines work then how much risk is it ? Baring in mind the average Covid victim is in their 80’s and they’re (I think) nearly all vaccinated. Johnson is saying you’re ok to go to a mass event as long as you have a vaccine passport but two vaccinated people from different houses can’t meet indoors 😁 i smell Bullshít don’t you ?




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If vaccines work then how much risk is it ? Baring in mind the average Covid victim is in their 80’s and they’re (I think) nearly all vaccinated. Johnson is saying you’re ok to go to a mass event as long as you have a vaccine passport but two vaccinated people from different houses can’t meet indoors 😁 i smell Bullshít don’t you ?




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I think the purpose of the passport is to protect you rather than everyone else. Appreciate we are all grown up though and can make up our own minds.

I hear what you’re saying about the rules though. I had to travel on a train with a few hundred strangers from London to Middlesbrough to say my final goodbye to my mother. Sharing a train with strangers is acceptable, however I had to stand outside and say my goodbye through a closed window (I’m still bitter about that!)
 
Fan on radio earlier this evening. “I don’t want to show a bit of paper to get into a ground ever”

The presenter reminded him what a ticket is made out of.

This “liberties” argument - sorry can’t go with it. Everybody has restrictions in their lives. Be it financial, legal or etiquette.
 
I think the purpose of the passport is to protect you rather than everyone else. Appreciate we are all grown up though and can make up our own minds.

I hear what you’re saying about the rules though. I had to travel on a train with a few hundred strangers from London to Middlesbrough to say my final goodbye to my mother. Sharing a train with strangers is acceptable, however I had to stand outside and say my goodbye through a closed window (I’m still bitter about that!)
That’s grim - sorry to hear that. There are a lot of sad stories to tell from this last year. I learnt only today of someone i know who seems to have taken their own life at the weekend - only saw her last week and she seemed fine. You just never know how people are feeling 😢




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Fan on radio earlier this evening. “I don’t want to show a bit of paper to get into a ground ever”

The presenter reminded him what a ticket is made out of.

This “liberties” argument - sorry can’t go with it. Everybody has restrictions in their lives. Be it financial, legal or etiquette.
A match ticket is quite a bit different from showing your medical status don’t you think




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A match ticket is quite a bit different from showing your medical status don’t you think




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In the grand scheme of things there is little difference. You show a piece of paper which you obtained by handing over your well earned cash or you hand over a piece of paper to say youve protected yourself and in doing so others. And that’s it down to the bare bones.
 
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