Have you read her book Roofie, I haven't?Annie Machon might be worth a call ;@))
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You could have requested MI6 give you a posting in one of the old "colonial outposts" old bean or a "desk" job with "ops"It was interesting, my security clearance was pretty low, as you can imagine, but when comms are flagged the place becomes a cauldron. I was offered a job when graduating, and at Mi5 too, but their pay scales are awful.
Many times.Have you read her book Roofie, I haven't?
UK and it's imperialist policiesWould you expect the [every] Irish citizens of this country to "apologise" for the death of British soldiers in Armagh, or [all] the English apologise to the Irish for the murder of 13 innocent unarmed civilians by British Paratroopers in Derry on "Bloody Sunday"?
Hows about the Prime Minister Tony Bliar - who sanctioned the murder and wounding of unarmed civilians by bombing and invading a Sovereign state, who had never threatened the UK or its "allies"?
The narrative underlying Shamima Begum is typically anti-muslim, racist and anti-democratic: portraying the UK and its imperialist policies as "legitimate" and "justified". Essentially legitimising the UK and its "friends" selling arms to rogue states, whilst demonising those who resist.
One can argue about the leaglities but this sums it up!I have mixed feelings towards this lady and her plight. On the one hand I empathise with her. I feel she is young, was very young when she decided to embark on her gruesome journey, and may have been 'influenced' by others who she saw as role models, and should have known better. If I could feel reassured she would return to this country and start afresh, and make something worthwhile out of her life, I would support this. Having said that she showed not a modicum of remorse when interviewed. Her lack of emotion or shock when discussing beheadings really shocked me. She was devoid of any humanity. I was immature when I was her age but there is a difference between excessive drinking and lecherous behaviours and wanting to sever someones head who disagreed with you.
Ha. Of course. I'd do the same if I'd implied something as daft as you too.You’re becoming a tad tedious mate. Enjoy the match
I only said something daft in your mind.Ha. Of course. I'd do the same if I'd implied something as daft as you too.
Enjoy the match as well, UTB.
I have mixed feelings towards this lady and her plight. On the one hand I empathise with her. I feel she is young, was very young when she decided to embark on her gruesome journey, and may have been 'influenced' by others who she saw as role models, and should have known better. If I could feel reassured she would return to this country and start afresh, and make something worthwhile out of her life, I would support this. Having said that she showed not a modicum of remorse when interviewed. Her lack of emotion or shock when discussing beheadings really shocked me. She was devoid of any humanity. I was immature when I was her age but there is a difference between excessive drinking and lecherous behaviours and wanting to sever someones head who disagreed with you.
The look in her eyes....On that interview that was broadcast
.Showing the lack of remorse and disinterest. Someone pointed out that at the time she was still in the camp where there still a lot of Isis supporters and members. They said that every word, gesture and even facial expression would be monitored and reported back on. Perhaps that was the reason for her response?
That isn't strictly the truth, the courts have decided that the Home Secretary has the right to arbitrarily revoke her right to return and face a fair trial.The courts have decided that she can’t come back.
In which case the Home Secretary's position must be designed to stop the course of justice, deny the ability to try her, and instead politicise her case, that can't be right for someone that was an adult when they committed their crimes, let alone one that was a child.True I guess we would.
Yes when you put it like that makes sense.In which case the Home Secretary's position must be designed to stop the course of justice, deny the ability to try her, and instead politicise her case, that can't be right for someone that was an adult when they committed their crimes, let alone one that was a child.
it does, but when they go low, do we go lower, or do we stick by our system of innocent until proven guilty, of human rights, of justice through the courts? Or do we go down the same route of rhetoric, draconianism, avoidance of fair trails etc?One can argue about the leaglities but this sums it up!
I know what you mean but her guilt/innocence isn't in question is it? I mean she isn't denying anything. It is a tough one and I'm really just saying emotionally, this is how people would generally feel about her coming back. I doubt if you would find many that would welcome her back, even to face justice.it does, but when they go low, do we go lower, or do we stick by our system of innocent until proven guilty, of human rights, of justice through the courts? Or do we go down the same route of rhetoric, draconianism, avoidance of fair trails etc?
Over 300 people have returned to the UK from Syria after supporting ISIS.I know what you mean but her guilt/innocence isn't in question is it? I mean she isn't denying anything. It is a tough one and I'm really just saying emotionally, this is how people would generally feel about her coming back. I doubt if you would find many that would welcome her back, even to face justice.
People stand trial every day with a plea of guilty. It's an irrelevance to the course of our justice system. People still have the right even when guilty, to stand and explain how and why, mitigating circumstances, etc. It's a cornerstone of our system, the right to a fair trial.I know what you mean but her guilt/innocence isn't in question is it? I mean she isn't denying anything. It is a tough one and I'm really just saying emotionally, this is how people would generally feel about her coming back. I doubt if you would find many that would welcome her back, even to face justice.