Very angry Downing

Heard an interview with schwartzer where he said he was treated very shabbily by the club at the end as well. Can't remember all the details but something like he got a letter in the post a few months after he finished thanking him for his services and that was about it. Turns out mr Gibson might be the club's saviour and all that, but he's a bit of a pr*ck too. Guess the two aren't mutually exclusive.
 
Nzedred said:
Heard an interview with schwartzer where he said he was treated very shabbily by the club at the end as well. Can't remember all the details but something like he got a letter in the post a few months after he finished thanking him for his services and that was about it. Turns out mr Gibson might be the club's saviour and all that, but he's a bit of a pr*ck too. Guess the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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He mentions it in the podcast, he got a typed up letter which he signed at the end. Said it basically seemed like he hadn't even wrote it himself.

He said he got a hand written letter from Southgate.

Downing said in the podcast the club was very different when he went back to when he left and Schwarzer said he agreed and that basically summed it up for him.
 
The common theme we hear is the club/Gibson when they're finished with a player just cut ties. It's pretty machiavellian. Very few players continue with a close relationship with the club once they're done.

I've worked for someone that acts like this, lords you while you work for them, and you're dead to them once they've got what they want out of you. It's a bit narcissistic

Downing not being in our coaching setup is a loss, he has had a great career, amazing experiences, worked for a lot of good managers, and would be great for our academy. Sounds like we've burned that bridge though, at least until Gibson sells up.
 
Glover_elbow said:
Hes sounds like a very bitter ex pro. He never looked happy in his second spell with anything, under any manager issue after issue but never his fault. A real shame he was a sublime footballer first time round.
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What can you do if your manager doesn’t like you? He came here at his peak and seemingly signed against the wishes of Karanka. Maybe it was an agreement that was made earlier in his career?
 
I know this to be entirely true. And can’t blame stewy for feeling put out by the whole episode.
there’s no loyalty in football. Both ways.
And you’ll never find me knocking a player chasing the money for that reason.
 
gravy173 said:
He got 2 goals and 1 assist in his last season with us from 24 starts and 14 sub appearances. These stats alone would be reason enough to not renew a contract, the right decision was definitely made.

During the whole of the 4 seasons of his second spell he scored 9 goals and had 16 assists in 128 starts and 27 sub appearances. He was neat and tidy and didn’t lose possession but he was in the team as a creative player and didn’t create enough, regularly 6 out of 10.

If you were to pick the best 5 players from our promotion team he would be nowhere near, he might not have even made a best XI of that season with Stuani, Adomah and Ramirez to shoe horn in alongside Clayton and Leadbetter in midfield. That was arguably his best season for us too!
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Excellent summation there, for £45K a week allegedly no-where near enough telling output to justify that salary. The wages are not his fault, the lack of output is.
 
Mendieta420 said:
Suddenly everyone cares about Downing's hurt feelings. No one seemed to care when he was being berated by the crowd for most of his career.
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How often was that though? I can only really remember when he stuck a transfer request in half way though the season we were relegated.
 
Simply not good enough. We were paying him a fortune and wasted 6mil on him. To pay that much for a 30 odd year old on a 4yr deal was throwing money away. He may have been treated badly but he was hardly doing it on the pitch.

You can count his assists and goals on two hands over 4 years. He was a winger for gods sake.

I have little sympathy for Gibson financially. Why buy a 30 odd year old who had absolutely no resale value and was never going to 'get better'.

Just another financial disaster to add to Rudy / Braithwaite / Britt and many more. I can't even think of a game where he stood out in 4 years?
 
S7DiscoDown said:
Simply not good enough. We were paying him a fortune and wasted 6mil on him. To pay that much for a 30 odd year old on a 4yr deal was throwing money away. He may have been treated badly but he was hardly doing it on the pitch.

You can count his assists and goals on two hands over 4 years. He was a winger for gods sake.

I have little sympathy for Gibson financially. Why buy a 30 odd year old who had absolutely no resale value and was never going to 'get better'.

Just another financial disaster to add to Rudy / Braithwaite / Britt and many more. I can't even think of a game where he stood out in 4 years?
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Wolves away, his first season back, he came on at 60 mins after being dropped with us 1-0 down and turned the game around and we won 3-1. He was superb that day but I can honestly say it was a complete one off rather than what should have been the norm.
 
His performance, salary and transfer fee are irrelevant if his employer lied to him. People raising this point have an agenda that has nothing to do with the thread.
 
A gentlemen’s agreement from one side isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. People are commenting on the fact he wasn’t worth another contract given his performance and how much it was costing boro which is relevant.

There is nothing in writing and we only have heard one side of it. How do we know that there weren’t agreements to the extensions which downing has conveniently forgotten to mention, seems a lot of people are keen to only believe one side of the story for their own agendas.
 
gravy173 said:
A gentlemen’s agreement from one side isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. People are commenting on the fact he wasn’t worth another contract given his performance and how much it was costing boro which is relevant.

There is nothing in writing and we only have heard one side of it. How do we know that there weren’t agreements to the extensions which downing has conveniently forgotten to mention, seems a lot of people are keen to only believe one side of the story for their own agendas.
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I'll say this again, so far we only have one piece of evidence so that it's what you have to base your opinion on until more information is tendered, if ever.
A spoken agreement is every bit as binding as a written contract.
 
The lad was an inch of being a Boro great but he sounds like a bit of a baby.

99.99% of people can only dream of his wealth and career, biting the hand is never a good thing.
 
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