Marcus Rashford on twitter

Only trouble is, having private businesses offering charity to our kids rather than the state will suit these evil ba5tards down to the ground.

This is actually a really good point, there will be plenty of right wing politicians who believe it isn't the job of the state to feed children. They would rather have communities helping each other out than have to fund everything in our society.

The question to those people would be, are we failing as a country when children are going without meals?
 
errr isn't what the vote was for, to provide free school meals, not to give some free money to school children, or am I missing your point ?

The answer is yes it should be part of the current welfare provision, but it's left to charities and foodbanks to ensure that children have enough to eat,

The argument the tories had which is why they voted it down is that they have given extra money in the form of a £20 uplift in universal credit.

I mean if this was given as vouchers for food instead of money then the use of the additional payment would be more obvious.

There is of course then the issue of whether the £20 is sufficient to cover for the 13 weeks per year kids are not at school getting school meals.
 
Whilst I appreciate and understand children should not go hungry but where would it end?

Everyone deserves housing so should everyone have a house paid for? Same with running water, electricity and gas? Etc etc.
 
You can bet your bottom dollar that this will be twisted by the Johnson Government, because of the intervention of charities and others children won't go hungry and they will claim that as the figures drop it's their good governance that has caused fewer children to not be hungry.

For children at my wife's school who qualify for free school meals we are going to batch cook additional food and distribute it on a daily basis during the holidays, it's going to be on paper plates and will need reheating but it will hopefully help those in most need.
 
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Funny you should say that Harry. I also saw his twitter post and it inspired me.

I posted on my local community facebook group that I will be helping families round here with a home cooked meal for 4 (or 2 or 3) no questions asked. I'm going to use my cooking skills for good.
If you are providing your cooking skills for free could we set up a Fund to help pay for the ingredients for the meals you are providing. I will happily donate if you feel this is viable. Unfortunately cannot help by other means as fractured my hip cycling but would like to contribute.
 
Whilst I appreciate and understand children should not go hungry but where would it end?

Everyone deserves housing so should everyone have a house paid for? Same with running water, electricity and gas? Etc etc.
Are you saying that the unemployed should receive no help from the state? Because Universal Credit (for all its flaws) is supposed to address all those basic needs. Even the Tories might shy away from starving beggars on every corner. What a lovely thought, well done.
 
Yes, stupid question.

Nice solid input 👌

Are you saying that the unemployed should receive no help from the state? Because Universal Credit (for all its flaws) is supposed to address all those basic needs. Even the Tories might shy away from starving beggars on every corner. What a lovely thought, well done.

Well I guess that's the point universal credit and child benefit is meant to address all minimum standards of living.

I have previously worked in welfare to work and the things people believe to be a necessity are just ridiculous... They will count sky, cigarettes and alcohol above feeding their children for example.
 
Nice solid input 👌



Well I guess that's the point universal credit and child benefit is meant to address all minimum standards of living.

I have previously worked in welfare to work and the things people believe to be a necessity are just ridiculous... They will count sky, cigarettes and alcohol above feeding their children for example.
And so you would rather the kids go short of food ? It is the kids that are suffering, they don't get the benefits but they go without food.
 
Nice solid input 👌



Well I guess that's the point universal credit and child benefit is meant to address all minimum standards of living.

I have previously worked in welfare to work and the things people believe to be a necessity are just ridiculous... They will count sky, cigarettes and alcohol above feeding their children for example.
2 of those things could be an addiction
 
Whilst I appreciate and understand children should not go hungry but where would it end?

Everyone deserves housing so should everyone have a house paid for? Same with running water, electricity and gas? Etc etc.
That would be a reasonable argument if there was no money to go around. Look at what has been spent on shipless ferry companies, garden bridges, PPE contracts to none PPE suppliers and of course Serco track and trace.

Do you think this was a better spending of public money?
 
If you are providing your cooking skills for free could we set up a Fund to help pay for the ingredients for the meals you are providing. I will happily donate if you feel this is viable. Unfortunately cannot help by other means as fractured my hip cycling but would like to contribute.
It's a nice gesture but no it's ok. We cook 90% of our meals at home from scratch so we've always got an abundance of ingredients to make a variety of dishes.

Thankyou for the offer though it's appreciated. I've yet to have any takers yet so might not even happen at all.
 
Marcus has shown empathy, a desire for social justice, passion and a willingness to put the effort in for other peoples gain that very few members of this government have shown. He has become a dogwhistle attracting the capitalist extremists, abusive right wing trolls and Cummings-bots and stood up with far more eloquence and calmness than I could have.
 
That would be a reasonable argument if there was no money to go around. Look at what has been spent on shipless ferry companies, garden bridges, PPE contracts to none PPE suppliers and of course Serco track and trace.

Do you think this was a better spending of public money?

This is a conversation about free school dinners and not about general public spending.

I'd have liked my mortgage paid as opposed to all that money being spent but it isn't going to happen.
 
This is a conversation about free school dinners and not about general public spending.

I'd have liked my mortgage paid as opposed to all that money being spent but it isn't going to happen.
You do realise your second paragraph completely contradicts your first don't you?
 
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