Support for Scottish Independence hits 58%

UKLL1981 said:
Perhaps but at least I’m not going to waste the next 4 years of my life getting more upset, bitter and angry about a government I can’t change.
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No, just about the turd prize you won and the government you got (y)
 
UKLL1981 said:
Perhaps but at least I’m not going to waste the next 4 years of my life getting more upset, bitter and angry about a government I can’t change.
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You frequently get angry, bitter and upset on here about the Government, about furlough, and about everythign that affects YOU. Rarely do I ever see you angry or upset about anything that affects others though, perhaps that's where your problem lies.
 
I don't understand the Scottish mentality sometimes

They say they vote Labour and get Tories - lets forget the Blair and Brown years....

So they then vote SNP, who only have candidates in Scotland and wonder why they have little representation
 
Juninho10 said:
I don't understand the Scottish mentality sometimes

They say they vote Labour and get Tories - lets forget the Blair and Brown years....

So they then vote SNP, who only have candidates in Scotland and wonder why they have little representation
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Rightly or wrongly, the Blair and Brown years were seen as a continuation of Tory rule, albeit watered down a bit.
 
Let them have it! They have f all to fallback onto economically. North Sea Oil? Busted flush. Can you exist on Whiskey exports Aline? Highly doubtful. See how long they last before being in the brown stuff
 
Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Czech Rep, Slovakia and Slovenia were economically a good bit behind where Scotland is now when they joined the EU in 2004 apparently

Renewable electricity generation in 2019 stood at 90% of self consumption
It exports, via pylon 4% of UK electricity usage.






 
Nosmo-King said:
Let them have it! They have f all to fallback onto economically. North Sea Oil? Busted flush. Can you exist on Whiskey exports Aline? Highly doubtful. See how long they last before being in the brown stuff
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There's a lot more to it than oil and whisky (not whiskey). Edinburgh is at the centre of the UK pension business. There's a great opportunity with London out of the EU to capture a lot of inward investment.
 
Shaboro1986 said:
Fcuk them. If they want to go, let them. Tell them to pay for their own prescriptions, their own tuition fees, their own car park fees and tell them to pay back the billions they owe us and that they won't be keeping the pound. And what will they do when the 10 years of oil runs out that they keep pushing as their future
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And what will they do when the 10 years of oil runs out that they keep pushing as their future
Plenty of hydro electricity in Scotland. They could also export water to England seeing as we are getting short of the stuff.
 
Trug said:
And what will they do when the 10 years of oil runs out that they keep pushing as their future
Plenty of hydro electricity in Scotland. They could also export water to England seeing as we are getting short of the stuff.
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According to the Environment Agency that will be in 25 years time...severe UK fresh water shortage. It would cost about the same as HS2 to set up.
The Scots would initially need some oil money, but would use it like Norway to establish a "Sovereign Fund"

Official figures put Scots natural resources worth at £273 Billion. Wind, water, fish, oil and gas. Which make up 34% of all UK natural resources.

So there's an argument to be made that together with other high value exports, plus inward investment, Scotland could function well independently.
The reason perhaps why England refuses independence, is that they depend more on Scotland than the other way round.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
I wonder what's stopping the Scot's taking a leaf out of the Brexiteers play book and just holding a referendum of their own, declaring themselves an independent sovereign nation and then reneging on the 1707 Treaty of Union.
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Because the EC will ignore it. In fact they will encourage their politicians to be locked up.
 
Ziggy said:
Scotland has always been a pretty strong financial sector, for it's size, based in Edinburgh.
If they became independent and stayed in the EU there would probably be some movement from London to Edinburgh. Giving that sector growth.
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RBS would have bust Scotland's finance sector on its own. At least talk sense.
 
I don't care if they vote for independence, it is their choice.
I feel the same about Northern Ireland going it alone or creating one Ireland.

But if they go, they go. A proper split and share of national assets and liabilities and no future funding responsibilities.
It is clear there are opportunities for them on the face of it, but there are incredible risks too.
They will continue to be all talk.
It is up to them whether they go, but up to us how we behave during a split and thereafter.
 
Same_as_before said:
RBS would have bust Scotland's finance sector on its own. At least talk sense.
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It would have bankrupt the whole of the UK. All management decisions made in London. A London bank with Scotland in it's name.
They've always said if Scotland became independent they would leave.
 
I am very against a break up of our union.

This really is not just about Scotland, it would affect our other nations as well. If another referendum is granted in the near future, which I doubt will happen anyway, no matter how screechy Nicola gets, then it should be everyone in the UK that gets to vote as we will all be affected one way or another.
 
it'll be a modified exodus -- Scotland cannot sustain itself 100 percent therefore let them go and let them find their own way
 
Ziggy said:
It would have bankrupt the whole of the UK. All management decisions made in London. A London bank with Scotland in it's name.
They've always said if Scotland became independent they would leave.
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That's simply not true, it's an Edinburgh bank through and through. The fact it bought Nat West does not matter.
 
LaPennaBianca said:
I'm sure there's no end to the issues it creates, but it'll create such acrimony that it'll just reinforce the nationalist narrative.

Noone in Scotland has a proper plan in regards to how a country whose economy is based on dwindling oil supplies, fish and tourism is going to survive outside the Union - but that hasn't stopped them.
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Sounds like brexit
 
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