Ignorant people blaming everyone else

lostinyorkshire

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People that refuse to wear a mask, didn't lockdown, visited friends and relatives. Go out and get smashed and cuddle everyone in sight etc etc etc.

Now calling the government worse than s h it.

Everyone needs to take 'personal responsibility' for how they try and get us through this situation.

We all know that in Britain we now have a populous that do not give too hoots about such things. Its being coming for years, Our national attitude to wanting everything for nothing etc will come home to roost as, as a nation we will not listen or refuse to 'bow down' to the greater good.
 
People that refuse to wear a mask, didn't lockdown, visited friends and relatives. Go out and get smashed and cuddle everyone in sight etc etc etc.

Now calling the government worse than s h it.

Everyone needs to take 'personal responsibility' for how they try and get us through this situation.

We all know that in Britain we now have a populous that do not give too hoots about such things. Its being coming for years, Our national attitude to wanting everything for nothing etc will come home to roost as, as a nation we will not listen or refuse to 'bow down' to the greater good.
The government sets the national attitude. Many years of Tory rule has inflated this selfish attitude, it is a key trait to be 'me first'. You reap what you sew.
 
I said this in another thread and I will say it again, statistically the UK is about average for rule compliance during covid. We are better than some and worse than others. France, Spain and Italy were bottom for compliance.
 
People that refuse to wear a mask, didn't lockdown, visited friends and relatives. Go out and get smashed and cuddle everyone in sight etc etc etc.

Now calling the government worse than s h it.

Everyone needs to take 'personal responsibility' for how they try and get us through this situation.

We all know that in Britain we now have a populous that do not give too hoots about such things. Its being coming for years, Our national attitude to wanting everything for nothing etc will come home to roost as, as a nation we will not listen or refuse to 'bow down' to the greater good.

Or -
People in the government that refuse to wear a mask, didn't lockdown, visited friends and relatives. Go out and get smashed and cuddle everyone in sight etc etc etc.

The government are worse than s h it.
 
We are better than some and worse than others. France, Spain and Italy were bottom for compliance.

Would this be a table compiled by Boris and Dom then, because if it's got Spain at the bottom of the list for compliance, it's not worth the paper it's written on

From direct experience, my part of Spain (Andalucia) is very compliant with wearing facemasks, distancing, and generally following the rules set by the national and regional governments. When out, you NEVER see anyone not wearing a mask, even e.g. an individual out walking a dog
 
‘Blame The People’ :D

Just shows you the power of Johnson and Cummins. Everyone knows they are a bunch of liars who you can‘t trusr.

But, the drip, drip, drip of ‘it’s down to the people’ really has worked.

Nothing to do with:
PM shaking hands with Covid patients (and telling us proudly whilst stood next to the chief medical officer)
It will be all over in 12 weeks
Test, test test is the answer but we can’t
Cummins setting an example by breaking rules
Everyone please go and eat out in the pubs
Get yourselves back to work
 
I said this in another thread and I will say it again, statistically the UK is about average for rule compliance during covid. We are better than some and worse than others. France, Spain and Italy were bottom for compliance.
I would question this data
 
People that refuse to wear a mask, didn't lockdown, visited friends and relatives. Go out and get smashed and cuddle everyone in sight etc etc etc.

Now calling the government worse than s h it.

Everyone needs to take 'personal responsibility' for how they try and get us through this situation.

We all know that in Britain we now have a populous that do not give too hoots about such things. Its being coming for years, Our national attitude to wanting everything for nothing etc will come home to roost as, as a nation we will not listen or refuse to 'bow down' to the greater good.
Most of the people you’re referring to couldn’t even spell government!

Good job I read that through I’d spelt government with an “F”!😳
 
‘Blame The People’ :D

Just shows you the power of Johnson and Cummins. Everyone knows they are a bunch of liars who you can‘t trusr.

But, the drip, drip, drip of ‘it’s down to the people’ really has worked.

Nothing to do with:
PM shaking hands with Covid patients (and telling us proudly whilst stood next to the chief medical officer)
It will be all over in 12 weeks
Test, test test is the answer but we can’t
Cummins setting an example by breaking rules
Everyone please go and eat out in the pubs
Get yourselves back to work

The Government and PM are there to show leadership and they have been miserably poor in protecting public services and keeping the people safe. However, you can not blame the government for Joe public not wearing a mask In a shop or on a bus, for thumping a man on a bus for moving seats to self distance. We all have personal responsibility and far to many of the minority are selfish ignorant people who take pleasure in sticking 2 fingers up to respecting the lives and safety of others who may be more vulnerable than themselves. It is about time we all respect our impact on others.
I see many incidents every week of thoughtless behaviours, most are minor but some are not. The government are not responsible for the choices and actions we make every day. You may not like or support government restrictions but unless we all comply, this pandemic will be prolonged and hurt more of us than would otherwise be the case. Eventually, we all get our say through the ballot box.
 
Totally agree with OP and knew it wouldn't be long before the usual lines of, no its not down to individuals it's the government fault and if Cummins can break the rules so can everybody else.

I think we can all agree the government have done a shoite job from the beginning but that doesn't excuse people not taking a personal responsibility for the health of themselves and others and yes.

I don't need a law to tell me I should stay at least a metre away from people, that I should wear a mask when out shopping, that gathering in a large group is not good idea in the current climate and good hygiene will help protect me and others, now if government officials and aides want to break them rules that's up to them but it certainly wont stop me from following them.
 
The Government and PM are there to show leadership and they have been miserably poor in protecting public services and keeping the people safe. However, you can not blame the government for Joe public not wearing a mask In a shop or on a bus, for thumping a man on a bus for moving seats to self distance. We all have personal responsibility and far to many of the minority are selfish ignorant people who take pleasure in sticking 2 fingers up to respecting the lives and safety of others who may be more vulnerable than themselves. It is about time we all respect our impact on others.
I see many incidents every week of thoughtless behaviours, most are minor but some are not. The government are not responsible for the choices and actions we make every day. You may not like or support government restrictions but unless we all comply this pandemic will be prolonged and hurt more of us than would otherwise be the case. Eventually, we all get our say through the ballot box.
Spot on Col
 
That's what the want you to think Pak. Essentially the government is trying to absolve itself of all responsibility to protect it's citizens. You are allowing it to.
 
Would this be a table compiled by Boris and Dom then, because if it's got Spain at the bottom of the list for compliance, it's not worth the paper it's written on

From direct experience, my part of Spain (Andalucia) is very compliant with wearing facemasks, distancing, and generally following the rules set by the national and regional governments. When out, you NEVER see anyone not wearing a mask, even e.g. an individual out walking a dog
Malaguena, it was compiled from a survey, so as accurate as the survey, I guess. There is plenty of data available, but not sure of the voracity of it, but it is all we have, and it is more accurate than opinion.
 
I have just seen a taxi driver (wearing a mask) who refused a passenger to get in without wearing a mask. In amongst the triad of language she was using, she said the laws don’t come in to play until Thursday, but he said he wasn’t taking any risks to protect his wife and kids, and said he wouldn’t change is mind. She is now going to report him and have his badge removed, and to top it off, as he drove away screamed a lovely racial insult at him.

All could have been avoided if she could be arsed putting a mask on in someone’s place of work, where they have been requested too..why are some many people finding it hard to do? 😡
 
The thing is - if there are no criminal consequences to breaking the law you know the outcome.
The government put the rules in place in the full knowledge that without policing there would be limited compliance. Remember their mantra ‘common sense’
Each time they used it many said there is no such thing. People have different ideas of common sense.

Then they blame the people and you fall for it.
Fair enough

In France on day 1 of mandatory masks there were police pulling French people out of local markets and fining them on the spot. I saw it and it wasn’t a touristy area.
My neighbours in France wouldn’t break lockdown rules. One of the reasons was a high likelihood of being pulled over and fined.

Here we had Cummins breaking the rules and the PM asking us to believe the ‘eye test story’.
 
Would this be a table compiled by Boris and Dom then, because if it's got Spain at the bottom of the list for compliance, it's not worth the paper it's written on

From direct experience, my part of Spain (Andalucia) is very compliant with wearing facemasks, distancing, and generally following the rules set by the national and regional governments. When out, you NEVER see anyone not wearing a mask, even e.g. an individual out walking a dog
Absolutely the same in the Canaries, in two (that’s how you spell the number) months didn’t see one person in a shop without a mask.

I suspect it’s because not only do their authorities bring in daft rules too, they actually enforce them, rather than just threat and bluster.
 
It’s a two tier thing, people do have to take personal responsibility, of course, and some have not, from my experience on social media it seems that those with previously pro-Johnson outlooks are those proudly boasting that they don’t wear masks or that the whole idea of restrictions is wrong, however they’re still backing ‘Boris’. Strange confabulation.

Where I hold the government accountable is the weird hokey-cokey policy that has allowed people to interpret as suits, a lack of enforcement which allows no sense of jeopardy and people to behave as they want rather than how they should, a prime minister who makes speeches to show of his wide range of vocabulary rather than concentrate on the simple advice mantras he should be getting across and I think the Cummings situation meant a lot of people lost all confidence in the Government.
 
I have just seen a taxi driver (wearing a mask) who refused a passenger to get in without wearing a mask. In amongst the triad of language she was using, she said the laws don’t come in to play until Thursday, but he said he wasn’t taking any risks to protect his wife and kids, and said he wouldn’t change is mind. She is now going to report him and have his badge removed, and to top it off, as he drove away screamed a lovely racial insult at him.

All could have been avoided if she could be arsed putting a mask on in someone’s place of work, where they have been requested too..why are some many people finding it hard to do? 😡
There area great number of people who don’t like being told what to do , never have and never will. They are obstinate to the point where they will do the opposite of what they are told with the “no one tells me what to do attitude”.
I cringe at the Cummins comments on here it’s pathetic, let’s be clear very few are breaking the rules because Dominic Cummins went on a drive to Barnard castle they are just using that to justify their actions. Are these people seriously trying to say that without Dominic Cummins we would have had much higher levels of compliance with the rules - nah, we would have been in the exact same situation now.

reaponsibilty starts at home, obey the rules and we will be fine.
It’s not a game, it’s not a big conspiracy, it’s not us against them, it’s not even political, it’s simply a matter of common sense.
 
There you co ‘common sense’ again. We ought to have learnt by now there is no such thing that we can agree on - its ‘personal sense’

Agree there has to be some personal responsibility though.
My view is the government own 95% of the problem and consequences related to Covid.

They, have done a cracking job convincing many that it has been less of a leadership issue and more of a public issue
 
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