Trident missile test fails for second time in a row

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Oh dear..... does anything work in this country anymore?

The test firing of a Trident missile from a Royal Navy submarine has failed, for the second time in a row.

The latest test of the UK's nuclear deterrent was from HMS Vanguard and was witnessed by the defence secretary.

The missile's booster rockets failed and it landed in the sea close to the launch site, according to the Sun, which first reported the malfunction.

When on patrol missiles would usually carry nuclear warheads but they are not fitted for test fires.

The Ministry of Defence said the "nuclear deterrent remains safe, secure and effective".

This is highly embarrassing for both the UK and the US manufacturer of the Trident missile.


www.bbc.co.uk

Trident missile test fails for second time in a row

The UK's nuclear deterrent failed to fire a test missile reportedly landing close to the launch site.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
According to officials - 'we don't have a problem'
Maybe as long as the target is no more than 4 metres away...


Also makes a mockery of the ‘deterrent’ argument (not that that argument was ever sound) for spending 2bn a year on its upkeep
 
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Maybe this is all a big PR job so that nobody realises just how dangerous we truly are.

Missiles that can't work, aircraft carriers that can't always be trusted to sail (and when they do, they have a fleet of invisible planes) ... It's all a big ruse to disguise true capabilities... isn't it?
 
I would assume the launch vessel and missiles still work, and very well, as for what it can do, and where from (not simple). I would assume all they will be doing is refining parameters, and working through far fetched scenarios, or testing multiple things at the same time. We did things the same way in the RAF, you sort of want failures in practice (without major risk to life), to ensure they don't happen when when it matters.

Effectively the best test result is one where you test 100 things and get 100 things right, but testing 100 and getting 90 right is still better than testing 10-20 things and getting them all right etc. The press might look at it differently mind, but they like most, won't have a clue what is going on.

Can't go doing loads and loads of test with that sort of kit, so when they do it's for a good reason. The US uses the same missiles, and wouldn't use them if they didn't work, they're probably just testing to make them better, or pushing the envelope, so to speak.
 
jeff_potato said:
Maybe this is all a big PR job so that nobody realises just how dangerous we truly are.

Missiles that can't work, aircraft carriers that can't always be trusted to sail (and when they do, they have a fleet of invisible planes) ... It's all a big ruse to disguise true capabilities... isn't it?
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Dangerous idea with nukes. Imagine Pootin sees the failure and launches thinking there will be no come back! Then NATO will have to respond and before you know it, I'm a cannibal, wandering the post-apocalyptic wasteland that is Thornaby, eating whoever I find.
 
Not surprised at all. I served 23 years in the Royal Navy. The amount of weapon systems that failed during live firing exercises was unbelievable. You simply wouldn't want to go to war on any current platform.

Guns jamming / parts breaking / munitions failing.... Standard 😂

How's this even public knowledge? Information like this should never make the public domain.
 
jeff_potato said:
Maybe this is all a big PR job so that nobody realises just how dangerous we truly are.

Missiles that can't work, aircraft carriers that can't always be trusted to sail (and when they do, they have a fleet of invisible planes) ... It's all a big ruse to disguise true capabilities... isn't it?
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It's definitely not a PR job!

It's highly embarrassing, but as I said previously, not entirely unexpected.
 
When my partner took on a new role she was supervising a group of people some of whom were in the room and some on TEAMs.
It was her first meeting with them all and the tech was failing.
She contacted the IT help desk who gave her the usual ‘go out and come back in again’ advice.

She promptly picked the lap top up and started to leave the room to ‘go out and come back in again’ 😂
 
I'm not massively bothered that the thing doesn't actually work as in reality, if we had already been nuked then sending a few back wouldn't help would it?

What I am bothered about is that I know that the thing doesn't actually work as it somewhat ruins it as a deterrent.

So under the tories, they just about crashed our economy, our border security is non existent, we have the highest taxes since the 2nd World War and our armed forces are a laughing stock.

On top of that everything else is crap, schools, health, transport, utilities, water, everything.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I'm not massively bothered that the thing doesn't actually work as in reality, if we had already been nuked then sending a few back wouldn't help would it?

What I am bothered about is that I know that the thing doesn't actually work as it somewhat ruins it as a deterrent.

So under the tories, they just about crashed our economy, our border security is non existent, we have the highest taxes since the 2nd World War and our armed forces are a laughing stock.

On top of that everything else is crap, schools, health, transport, utilities, water, everything.
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The point of the nuclear deterrent is that the opposition is deterred from firing their weapons because they believe you would retaliate (in this case from our subs). If they know our nuclear deterrent doesn’t function then the opposition can attack without any threat of retaliation.
 
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