Cyclists on the pavement

Capybara said:
I'm not being sarcastic. It's something I see probably a couple of times a week.
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I'm like a pro cyclist, lycra clad and my phone stays firmly in my back pocket. It's there as my wallet and my get out of jail card should I be unable to continue my journey. I don't have any earphones, Bluetooth or otherwise, and if I get a call then I'll pull over, dismount and call the person back.
Sadly I can't say the same for other cyclists or drivers or pedestrians with their attention glued to a screen.
 
atypical_boro said:
Personally I don't feel owed that by motorists. All I ever would ask for from a motorist is their support in getting bikes off the roads (and onto something more suitable!). As I say though, it is mind-boggling that we have to ask governments for this, when you consider the number of deaths from cycling accidents, the green issues and the obesity issues we face. Not to mention the covid-19 world where no one will be able to afford a car because the economy is flatlining.
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There are quite a few obese cyclists to be fair. Similarly, not all motorists are obese, unhealthy etc.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
No the law hasn't changed, and as a passionate cyclist for more than 30 years it ignorant, divisive and dangerous - no excuses and we can't have a go at ignorant and dangerous motorists if we're pushing down danger towards pedestrians through cycling on pavements.

We need proper, fit for purpose, cycling infrastructure like in The Netherlands and Denmark, but I won't hold my breath.
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Can you answer a question for me. I live down in Cambridgeshire. We get a lot of cyclists in groups riding 3-4 a breast is this common practice with cycling clubs?
 
Borodaveinexile said:
Can you answer a question for me. I live down in Cambridgeshire. We get a lot of cyclists in groups riding 3-4 a breast is this common practice with cycling clubs?
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It's people accessing a leisure pursuit, keeping fit and healthy in a group of like minded individuals.
Unfortunately they prefer to show their self righteous attitude, rather than commonsense and respect for other road users.
The same could be said for all road users at times.
 
Barnsy said:
It's people accessing a leisure pursuit, keeping fit and healthy in a group of like minded individuals.
Unfortunately they prefer to show their self righteous attitude, rather than commonsense and respect for other road users.
The same could be said for all road users at times.
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No, and I’d be surprised if they actually are riding 3-4 a breast unless Cambridgeshire has exceptionally wide roads. They should be riding two a breast, as is with virtually all club riding.
 
Borodaveinexile said:
Can you answer a question for me. I live down in Cambridgeshire. We get a lot of cyclists in groups riding 3-4 a breast is this common practice with cycling clubs?
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No, or it shouldn't be.

Two abreast is absolutely fine, but anymore than that isn't. Our club has a strict set of protocols and if riders are riding 3 or more abreast then one of the ride leaders would pull them up and have a word.

Where in Cambridgeshire do you live, as our club runs often go out that way ?
 
atypical_boro said:
No, and I’d be surprised if they actually are riding 3-4 a breast unless Cambridgeshire has exceptionally wide roads. They should be riding two a breast, as is with virtually all club riding.
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One problem for motorised humans is that cyclists arent travelling at 30 mph +
Patience is a virtue [according to the bible], but on our many narrow roads and in urban areas, those in the tin bubble have to get everywhere "yesterday".
Its a frequant experience with a car up your arz rushing to get by - risking their life and safety of cyclists / pedestrians - only to find them 100 meters up the road, queuing in a traffic jam, filling the atmosphere with poisonous gases and getting frustrated.
A change if mindset is required.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/motoring-issues/2020/how-many-cars-are-there-in-the-uk/
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The number of motor vehicles [including buses / vans / lorries] on Britains roads is now above 40,000,000!
How long before we become one big car park and one big traffic jam?

Surely, common sense dictates that we cant continue, for the sake of our environment, our economy and the declining resource - fossil fuels - we use to fuel our vehicles?
 
atypical_boro said:
No, and I’d be surprised if they actually are riding 3-4 a breast unless Cambridgeshire has exceptionally wide roads. They should be riding two a breast, as is with virtually all club riding.
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I wasn't aware of this, I thought it was single file when riding on roads, but I'm not a road cyclist so completely out of touch with the rules and regulations. I'd hazard a guess a number of other motorists aren't aware of this and are sat muttering under their breath when stuck behind cyclists riding two abreast.
 
theredrooster said:
I wasn't aware of this, I thought it was single file when riding on roads, but I'm not a road cyclist so completely out of touch with the rules and regulations. I'd hazard a guess a number of other motorists aren't aware of this and are sat muttering under their breath when stuck behind cyclists riding two abreast.
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You are quite correct, it's one of the biggest myths that all cyclists should always cycle in single file. You normally get one or two gobshites per ride shouting it out their car window.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
You are quite correct, it's one of the biggest myths that all cyclists should always cycle in single file. You normally get one or two gobshites per ride shouting it out their car window.
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Well I've learnt something new today, and will stop the muttering under my breath if I encounter this situation in future! (I would never shout abuse out of a window, not sure what type of person would do that).
 
Section 66
This section explains what cyclists should and should not do when riding on the road.

You should:

  • Keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear.
  • Keep both feet on the pedals.
  • Be considerate of other road users, taking extra care around blind and partially sighted pedestrians. Use your bell when necessary to signal you are nearby.
  • Ride single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
You should not:

  • Ride more than two abreast.
  • Ride close behind another vehicle.
  • Carry anything that will affect your balance or get tangled up in your wheels or chain.
 
Lemmy_kilmister said:
Section 66
This section explains what cyclists should and should not do when riding on the road.

You should:

  • Keep both hands on the handlebars except when signalling or changing gear.
  • Keep both feet on the pedals.
  • Be considerate of other road users, taking extra care around blind and partially sighted pedestrians. Use your bell when necessary to signal you are nearby.
  • Ride single file on narrow or busy roads and when riding round bends
You should not:

  • Ride more than two abreast.
  • Ride close behind another vehicle.
  • Carry anything that will affect your balance or get tangled up in your wheels or chain.
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I guess it’s what the “cyclists” constitute as busy. The majority of roads in today’s world are busy!
 
The reallity for many people on a bike: [Todays Gazette]
It happens all too frequently.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/schoolboy-14-fights-life-after-18755630
Schoolboy, 14, fights for life after 'serious' crash between bike and car
A 14-year-old boy is critically ill in hospital after a crash between a bike and a car.

Police are appealing for witnesses and information about a serious collision involving a car and a bike on the A61 Station Road, in Thirsk.

It happened at about 3.15pm on Tuesday, 11 August, 2020, and closed the road for several hours.

The crash involved a pedal cycle that was travelling out of the Stoneacre entrance, and a grey Ford Focus that was travelling from Tesco towards Stoneacre.

The cyclist, a 14-year-old boy, suffered serious head injuries and was airlifted to Leeds General Infirmary, where he remains in a critical condition.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
No, or it shouldn't be.

Two abreast is absolutely fine, but anymore than that isn't. Our club has a strict set of protocols and if riders are riding 3 or more abreast then one of the ride leaders would pull them up and have a word.

Where in Cambridgeshire do you live, as our club runs often go out that way ?
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Just outside Huntingdon. But I’m a courier & do a lot of driving up & around Kimbolton & Grafham.
 
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