Unravel_Morrison
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Except it isn't, because otherwise he wouldn't have been.
This Clapham attack
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There is a lot wrong with the asylum system and I have no suggestions for the solution. This case, even ignoring the crime he is currently on the loose for, shows how the system isn't working. He arrived in the country in 2016, committed sexual assault crimes in 2018 and was granted asylum in 2021. Quicker processing is a must but if he had been processed quickly he wouldn't have had those convictions when he was processed and presumably wouldn't have had to go to a tribunal to be granted asylum. Nothing would then indicate whether or not the crimes he has committed before and after asylum being granted would have happened so I have no idea how we decide who is a criminal (or potential criminal) and shouldn't be granted asylum.
There is obviously an issue that not all asylum seekers are genuinely in need of asylum and are just economic migrants trying to get in through a system that can be "gamed". I think we have to accept the fact that in order to not turn away genuine asylum seekers we have to allow some non-genuine ones through. I think if someone is here to claim asylum and they can't be trusted not to commit crimes, particularly sexual offence crimes, while they are waiting then it should be an easy instant rejection of application. I can't imagine too many members of the public are happy about admitting sexual offenders whichever side of the debate they sit on. I also completely agree that the "religion card" should have absolutely no bearing on the decision.
There is obviously an issue that not all asylum seekers are genuinely in need of asylum and are just economic migrants trying to get in through a system that can be "gamed". I think we have to accept the fact that in order to not turn away genuine asylum seekers we have to allow some non-genuine ones through. I think if someone is here to claim asylum and they can't be trusted not to commit crimes, particularly sexual offence crimes, while they are waiting then it should be an easy instant rejection of application. I can't imagine too many members of the public are happy about admitting sexual offenders whichever side of the debate they sit on. I also completely agree that the "religion card" should have absolutely no bearing on the decision.
1finny
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looks like I failed miserably with my point as… I wholeheartedly agree with you.
we are easily influenced tho.
There are 000’s of attacks daily by men on women and the one that grabs the attention is about an asylum seeker.
The bandwagon rolls and he will become a poster boy for a strong right wing reaction
Are you suggesting this is the norm, and it's because the bloke was an asylum seeker that its getting press...?
Is the below something that happens 100's of times a day??
Witnesses have in the meantime been giving their account of the chemical attack, which police described as "targeted" and say left a 31-year-old mother and her three-year-old daughter with potentially life-changing injuries.
One witness, who asked to remain anonymous, told Sky News: "He grabbed one of the two children and violently grabbed them and slammed them on the floor.
"The lady then shouted 'my eyes, my eyes, call the police, my eyes', then I saw him run off. It was all so traumatising."
Another told us a man dragged a small child and "smashed them on the floor" twice, leaving blood on the ground.
Is the below something that happens 100's of times a day??
Witnesses have in the meantime been giving their account of the chemical attack, which police described as "targeted" and say left a 31-year-old mother and her three-year-old daughter with potentially life-changing injuries.
One witness, who asked to remain anonymous, told Sky News: "He grabbed one of the two children and violently grabbed them and slammed them on the floor.
"The lady then shouted 'my eyes, my eyes, call the police, my eyes', then I saw him run off. It was all so traumatising."
Another told us a man dragged a small child and "smashed them on the floor" twice, leaving blood on the ground.
Stocko
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What a weird response.
I can guarantee there wasn’t another acid attack on a family yesterday,
this is why it’s headline news.
festa5
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Almost as if it's lots of different people expressing varying opinions rather than just one person writing all the posts isn't it?
Lottowyn
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How do you repatriate a person who has flushed or eaten their identity ?
Perhaps we should not even consider allowing them consideration of staying in this country If they have no identification,but then there’s the little problem of what we do with them.
As for the routine of making everything political, I seem to remember someone yonks ago finding illegal immigrants on their staff in Downing Street.
Perhaps we should not even consider allowing them consideration of staying in this country If they have no identification,but then there’s the little problem of what we do with them.
As for the routine of making everything political, I seem to remember someone yonks ago finding illegal immigrants on their staff in Downing Street.
TurnbullsCans
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Two very surprising things to me from this story, (aside from the obvious how the hell couldn’t anyone do that…)
1) There’s a bloke out in public with what looks like half his face missing and he’s still not been spotted/found
2) Converting to Christianity and subscribing to a different flavour of fairytale can influence an asylum decision.
1) There’s a bloke out in public with what looks like half his face missing and he’s still not been spotted/found
2) Converting to Christianity and subscribing to a different flavour of fairytale can influence an asylum decision.
Crazy how many acid attacks happen looking at the reported figures.
Data from police forces across England and Wales showed there were 710 acid attacks recorded last year (2022), compared with 421 in 2021, according to Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI)
I have heard of about two in five years. I feel lucky I feel so far removed from stuff like this.
Data from police forces across England and Wales showed there were 710 acid attacks recorded last year (2022), compared with 421 in 2021, according to Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI)
I have heard of about two in five years. I feel lucky I feel so far removed from stuff like this.
NorthumberlandBoro
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Acid attacks aren't new, they were around in the Victorian era, but there appears to be an uplift in recent years. As if knife crime wasn't bad enough.
dorivasmiddlefinger
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scumbag
No. The attached was reported across all.media before it was known that it involved an Asylum seeker.
This cross bow stalker ?
Crossbow man shot dead by police in southeast London was convicted stalker under restraining order
Bryce Hodgson, 30, had been put under a five-year restraining order banning him from entering Bywater Place in Surrey Quays, southeast London, where he was shot on Tuesday.
news.sky.com
I think the fact Abdul Shakoor Ezedi is on the run after such a despicable attack is keeping him in the news.
Mountain Climber
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Both political parties have been responsible for unfettered immigration where criminals have been entering this country for years. We have enough of our own criminals why allow even more in?
So we now have Albanian gangs running drug dealing and prostitution in most major cities. ( Albania another safe country that these thugs stressed is unsafe and subsequently allowed into the UK. )
The civil service is now running the asylum system. The views of the majority of people in this country who want stricter regulation and people 'illegally' living here sent back are being ignored.
They are telling us that Turkey is not a 'safe' country to send people back to and yet thousands of Britons holiday there each year.
Our population is rising significantly with pressure on the NHS, Schools, and the Criminal Justice System. Kent has particularly taken the brunt of unlimited migration with local, English born residents, struggling to find school placements for their own children.
Meanwhile the tax payers are paying millions of pounds to house people in hotels when our own war veterans are sleeping on the street. This is the reality.
As the saying goes 'You couldn't make it up'
So we now have Albanian gangs running drug dealing and prostitution in most major cities. ( Albania another safe country that these thugs stressed is unsafe and subsequently allowed into the UK. )
The civil service is now running the asylum system. The views of the majority of people in this country who want stricter regulation and people 'illegally' living here sent back are being ignored.
They are telling us that Turkey is not a 'safe' country to send people back to and yet thousands of Britons holiday there each year.
Our population is rising significantly with pressure on the NHS, Schools, and the Criminal Justice System. Kent has particularly taken the brunt of unlimited migration with local, English born residents, struggling to find school placements for their own children.
Meanwhile the tax payers are paying millions of pounds to house people in hotels when our own war veterans are sleeping on the street. This is the reality.
As the saying goes 'You couldn't make it up'
MolteniArcore
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Yes, the magical solution of Rwanda. Please tell me you haven’t been suckered into that one?
