When’s the second wave?

You might expect that all this extra hygiene and distancing would have a good effect on 'regular' winter bugs. I have only ever caught these when I've been living in hotels and working in overcrowded offices.

Having said that, all the young people round where I live (and quite a few oldies) seem to have decided it's all over, so prepare for spike II.
 
Who knows?
The 2 week crew pick any event, milestone or month to suit.
Like picking out a ticket at a tombola.
I think you're misunderstanding a second wave. Confusing it with infections in the first wave spreading.

I know it's your want to doubt all the events that have spread coronavirus have actually spread it, but answer me this: why are we still getting 60+ deaths a day when other European countries that did a proper lockdown are getting much fewer.
 
I think you're misunderstanding a second wave. Confusing it with infections in the first wave spreading.

I know it's your want to doubt all the events that have spread coronavirus have actually spread it, but answer me this: why are we still getting 60+ deaths a day when other European countries that did a proper lockdown are getting much fewer.
Who knows.
Although look at what is happening in Australia after a 'proper' lockdown was lifted.

Seems herd immunity of sorts is the way forward.

Or would you rather we went back into a full Chinese style welding the doors shut lockdown? If you had a choice?
 
Who knows.
Although look at what is happening in Australia after a 'proper' lockdown was lifted.

Seems herd immunity of sorts is the way forward.

Or would you rather we went back into a full Chinese style welding the doors shut lockdown? If you had a choice?
We can't go back to something we never had. Also no evidence yet that herd immunity works at all, and of course it means risking peoples lives to find out.
 
We can't go back to something we never had. Also no evidence yet that herd immunity works at all, and of course it means risking peoples lives to find out.
Ok. Do you want to go into a Chinese style welding doors shut lockdown? Or a Melbourne tower block lockdown where people were accosted by the police if they dared leave?
 
Ok. Do you want to go into a Chinese style welding doors shut lockdown? Or a Melbourne tower block lockdown where people were accosted by the police if they dared leave?
Do you have any evidence that herd immunity works?

Also how many people per million died in China rather than here?

I personally liked the french system of lockdown. Where you had to have a printed form if you came out for exercise, shopping or to see your mistress. Would lessen the chance of people breaking lockdown if there was a way of recording when people were out, make sure they only went shopping once, or to exercise once. One thing is clear, our weak lockdown, and numerous breaking of the lockdown, is the reason we have a massive tail compared to the rest of Europe.
 
We can't go back to something we never had. Also no evidence yet that herd immunity works at all, and of course it means risking peoples lives to find out.

Yes there is. It is evident in Stockholm for instance. And you should know that there isn't yet a single documented case of someone getting it twice.
 
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