Equal pay women’s World Cup

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Bobbygee

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I might get completely shot down here but if a tournament doesn’t generate the amount of money that the men’s tournament generates.
Is equal pay/win bonuses right ?

What next women’s clubs teams matching the men’s wages? Bit far fetched but similar principles,m. The reason the men get paid so much is because of how lucrative the game is which also brings in foreign billions. The women’s game is very lucky that the men’s game props it up, club facilities etc etc, it’s great that clubs have taken on women’s teams but I bet it’s not financially lucrative to such clubs, is this business or sport? I’d say top level football is more business than sport (sad but true).

For me although they come under the same governing bodies just look at attendances at the women’s game (less than Rugby Union which is unable to sustain itself), and the money the woman’s game generates through TV rights that surely has to reflect the money on offer.

I’m all for equal rights but surely you earn equal rights by developing the sport it’s not like tennis where competitions, sponsorships and TV rights run concurrently.
 
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It’s cloud cuckoo land

As you say it’s a spurious argument as there is simply no comparison in viewing figures and sponsorship money.

I heard some one on talk sport the other day say the WSL has the potential to a billion pound business. Err ok
 
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Was listening to some ex England player on talksport yesterday harping on about how the lionesses deserve the same pay as men’s footballers as they have “given the nation hope” after there euros win last year.

I can’t get behind that, as you’ve rightly said the men’s game props up the ladies, I don’t want to sound misogynistic here, but the ladies are getting ideas well above there station if they think they will ever be equal earners in this field
 
Kevo4 said:
Was listening to some ex England player on talksport yesterday harping on about how the lionesses deserve the same pay as men’s footballers as they have “given the nation hope” after there euros win last year.

I can’t get behind that, as you’ve rightly said the men’s game props up the ladies, I don’t want to sound misogynistic here, but the ladies are getting ideas well above there station if they think they will ever be equal earners in this field
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We could reduce the men’s salaries so they are equal?
 
1finny said:
If a checkout operator is male or female they get paid the same regardless of the amount of money they take.



Just saying
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Checkout operators are doing the same job. Female players are only playing against female players so it's not the same. It's essentially a completely different sport. Should the U21s get the same pay as the Men's (or women's) World Cup? It's ageist if they don't.

I don't think anyone should get paid for representing their country. The tournament generates money and it should be awarded to the nation's, not paid out as prize money but split evenly (including to teams that didn't qualify) to be used on grass-roots football in their home nations. Players will have their expenses covered. They don't need paying on top of that.

Fairly certain the England players donate their fees for playing for England anyway.
 
I think there's a case for it in international tournaments.

Yes the tournaments attract sponsorship, gate receipts etc etc but what the men get isn't that tightly linked to how much is generated. It's not like they can go and sign for another team.

It's essentially an allowance for representing your country. You become one of the best players and get selected you get that allowance.

Very different at club level where it's very much a business and wages are more reflective of how much money is being generated (and indeed not all players are paid remotely the same, even those at the same level).

And then clubs go and spend more than that anyway and get into debt.
 
Yes I was going to mention the charity thing, I was under the impression the men made nothing from international football anyway.

Its a tricky subject this, as there simply isn't enough money in the women's game to make everything equal. The viewing figures are growing, both men and women watch it, but there are still way more male football fans than female in general, and lots of those men don't watch any women's at all. Yet the women's WC was watched by more men than women in 2019.

Wimbledon, for example, seems to be much more popular with women than football is, so its easy to see how its easier for both champions now to earn the same.

The real problem, of course, is that the men are paid far too much.
 
atypical_boro said:
Yes I was going to mention the charity thing, I was under the impression the men made nothing from international football anyway.

Its a tricky subject this, as there simply isn't enough money in the women's game to make everything equal. The viewing figures are growing, both men and women watch it, but there are still way more male football fans than female in general, and lots of those men don't watch any women's at all. Yet the women's WC was watched by more men than women in 2019.

Wimbledon, for example, seems to be much more popular with women than football is, so its easy to see how its easier for both champions now to earn the same.
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And even Wimbledon isn't perfect because the men play best of 5 so it's now arguably unfair the other way.

Going off topic a bit but I'd absolutely love the women to have to play best of 5. I assume the issue would be scheduling. But no reason they can't from a physical perspective and it'd really separate the wheat from the chaff. Would be fascinating to see who comes to the fore if it happened. (Which it won't).
 
festa5 said:
And even Wimbledon isn't perfect because the men play best of 5 so it's now arguably unfair the other way.

Going off topic a bit but I'd absolutely love the women to have to play best of 5. I assume the issue would be scheduling. But no reason they can't from a physical perspective and it'd really separate the wheat from the chaff. Would be fascinating to see who comes to the fore if it happened. (Which it won't).
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Hmmm. Though we’ve seen Federer win 8 in a row, Djokovic 5, Sampras 7 etc. Is it such a bad thing if the women’s game doesn’t go that way? Even Serena didn’t dominate like that.

I was listening to someone on the radio talking about Wimbledon and how it is one of very few sporting events that seems to be just as watched by women as it is men, if not more. And not just the women’s title, the men’s too (by women).

I do actually know loads of lasses who love it who don’t seem to be interested in much other sport.
 
Jedi boro said:
My other bugbear is the women’s ashes, no it’s not the ashes is called it for a significant historic reason.

Eng women v Australia is a huge deal a massive game and is rightly celebrated but it’s not the ashes.
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I can't say that bothers me in the slightest tbh. Ok, so it was only men involved back in 1882 but so what? Inevitable it would be called the women's ashes.

In fact it was lasses who presented them with the first urn.....
 
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