Ivan Toney

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The written reasons for his ban have been released this morning. It says he placed 13 bets on his team to lose. He’s done very well to o my get an 8 month ban. It says the FA wanted 15 months but reduced it to 8 after he was diagnosed as chronically addicted to betting. Part of the punishment involves him getting professional help, which is no bad thing I guess.
 
The written reasons for his ban have been released this morning. It says he placed 13 bets on his team to lose. He’s done very well to o my get an 8 month ban. It says the FA wanted 15 months but reduced it to 8 after he was diagnosed as chronically addicted to betting. Part of the punishment involves him getting professional help, which is no bad thing I guess.
I thought exactly the same when I read his rap sheet, 8 months is not a bad sentence!
 
The written reasons for his ban have been released this morning. It says he placed 13 bets on his team to lose. He’s done very well to o my get an 8 month ban. It says the FA wanted 15 months but reduced it to 8 after he was diagnosed as chronically addicted to betting. Part of the punishment involves him getting professional help, which is no bad thing I guess.
That is the worst kind of betting isnt it. A bet that you can directly influence.
I get why players cant bet on other football games....inside knowledge etc....but betting on yourself to loose...! That brings the game into disrepute massively and I cant understand why he hasnt been given a lifetime ban at worst or a 2 year ban at best (from his point of view)
 
That is the worst kind of betting isnt it. A bet that you can directly influence.
I get why players cant bet on other football games....inside knowledge etc....but betting on yourself to loose...! That brings the game into disrepute massively and I cant understand why he hasnt been given a lifetime ban at worst or a 2 year ban at best (from his point of view)
He was also giving his mates inside info it says. They also say they are convinced he has a second mobile that he used to bet using aliases but denied it and refused to hand it over when presented with overwhelming evidence.
 
That is the worst kind of betting isnt it. A bet that you can directly influence.
I get why players cant bet on other football games....inside knowledge etc....but betting on yourself to loose...! That brings the game into disrepute massively and I cant understand why he hasnt been given a lifetime ban at worst or a 2 year ban at best (from his point of view)

He wasn't in the squad for the games he bet on.

I still think it's actually surprisingly lenient given the scale and nature of the bets, even the original 15 month ban.
 
That is the worst kind of betting isnt it. A bet that you can directly influence
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I don't bet but if I did that's the type of betting I like to be involved in , seems perfect for beating the bookies. But obviously for a professional player ......
 
He wasn't in the squad for the games he bet on.

I still think it's actually surprisingly lenient given the scale and nature of the bets, even the original 15 month ban.
It's just as bad. It's basically insider trading. He knows the squad and the likelihood of them winning. If he's betting because he knows a key player is missing (like himself) then he has knowledge not built into the price. I'm sure this happens with players telling their mates every week but that isn't supposed to be allowed either as far as I know.
 
Those Sheff Wed players from the 1960s must be thinking they were born too soon. If they are still alive that is, and they played at a time when their lifetime football earnings would be less than Toney earns in a week, so more understandable but entirely wrong nevertheless.
 
The FA should further overhaul the rules on gambling advertising but they've missed an open goal by their failure to take this opportunity to send a significant message that betting on football by players will not be tolerated and the consequence's will be more than a proverbial wrist slap.
The real problem is his club ( if they decide to) can only fine him a maximum of 4 weeks wages, which is only what the PFA allows. They should be able to find him the entirety of the ban , then that is a real restraint on maybe doing this type of betting. At the moment hes basically on gardening leave on full pay wondering what to do with his time, I would end up gambling in that situation.
 
It might be an 8 month ban but it’s effectively longer than that with the ban on training. When he comes back he won’t have had any pre season so will need to time to get up to speed. He is effectively out for the whole of next season.

Now the details are out I can honestly see Brentford cutting their loses and sacking him…. Let’s face it would you want someone like him int he dressing room? I know I wouldn’t
 
It might be an 8 month ban but it’s effectively longer than that with the ban on training. When he comes back he won’t have had any pre season so will need to time to get up to speed. He is effectively out for the whole of next season.

Now the details are out I can honestly see Brentford cutting their loses and sacking him…. Let’s face it would you want someone like him int he dressing room? I know I wouldn’t
Brentford have said today that they consider the matter closed and won’t be commenting further on it
 
It's just as bad. It's basically insider trading. He knows the squad and the likelihood of them winning. If he's betting because he knows a key player is missing (like himself) then he has knowledge not built into the price. I'm sure this happens with players telling their mates every week but that isn't supposed to be allowed either as far as I know.

There is always the chance he knows some of those playing very well and could reward them for poor performance.

It stinks - life ban for me
 
The ban is ridiculously short for the scale of the charges. I wonder why? Back training and playing in the new year will mean he could be hitting his form towards the end of the season. There isn't a summer tournament next year that he would be involved in by any chance is there?
 
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